Sure, but when you hold Christ up as a particular figure, the only information that I have about Jesus comes from the Bible, and rather than going through all of it again, because there's lots of people's questions, if you go to ironchariots.

org, you will find a verse by verse deconstruction of The Sermon on the Mount, where I point out that Jesus gave some good advice and some crappy advice and some questionable advice, and that's not enough.

And there's not a secular humanist organization or country on the planet that has ever produced as a good thing, rapists and murderers.

So, well, that's, that's highly debatable. That's highly debatable. One of the things, absolutely true, because there's never been a secular humanist government on the planet.

I don't know. I think the Soviets were pretty secular.

Then with all, with all due apologies, you do not know the first thing about what secular humanism is. You should read the secular humanist manifestos, because what happened in Russia in communist countries was an institution of a religious-like structure surrounded, centered around an individual and forced atheism, none of which is consistent with humanism, none of it.

And and we can talk about this later and I'd be happy to point you to this because you can say that it was an atheist thing um that went awry, but you can't call it secular humanism.

There's no humanism in what was done there, but

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