[Music] I was confronted with a situation where we would finish the project and die, or not finish the project and die. Right away, we were very concerned about are we going to lose this company or not. We only got one shot, and if you have one shot, that chip has to be perfect. But how do you build a perfect chip the first [Music] time? Welcome to Crucible moments, a podcast about the critical Crossroads and inflection points that shaped some of the world's most remarkable companies. I'm your host, Rof Buam. Almost exactly one year ago, in November of 2022, Chat GPT took the world by storm. Within 5 days, it had 1 million users. Within 8 weeks, 100 million. It was the fastest adoption of a new technology product the world had ever seen. What fewer people know, however, is the decades-long story of the company that developed the technology that Chat GPT and much of AI as we know it today relies on. Today, we're looking at Nvidia, the technology company founded in 1993 by Jensen Hong.

Chris Malikowski and Curtis Priam. Their initial idea was to create 3D graphics cards for gamers. Nvidia's eventual shift towards AI is one of the most remarkable business pivots in history. It has spotlighted Nvidia on our cultural stage and cemented the company as a global leader in AI computing. The Crucible moments in today's episode center on Nvidia's willingness to bet on unproven markets years ahead of time. We'll look at how Nvidia took a risk at its outset entering a competitive field and targeting a user base few took seriously. How, days from bankruptcy, they scrapped their product architecture entirely and embarked on a timeline so ambitious no one thought they could pull it off. And how the company, finally dominant in gaming, decided to stake its future on a radically new field that many doubted would ever become a viable market. I'm Jensen Wong. I'm the president and CEO of Nvidia. I met Chris and Curtis. They were at Sun Microsystems. I was at LS Logic. So we were all from the

workstation industry, and all we had to work on were Sun workstations, and valid workstations, and things like that. This was in the '80s, back when most computers were bulky expensive machines, really only available to businesses that could afford them. Sun Microsystems manufactured high-end computer workstations, and LSI logic specialized in semiconductors. Concurrent with a computer Revolution was the race to create the most sophisticated computer chips. Very few companies had the ability to build their own chips, with the exception of IBM really at the time. And so, Sun was venturing into building semi-custom chips for their computers. Chris and Curtis were building chips at Sun Microsystems, and I was the assigned engineer to work with them from LSI logic. So, in essence, Jensen was assigned to me, and that started a friendship between the three of us. My name is Chris Malachowsky. I'm senior vice president fellow and co-founder of Nvidia Corporation. We really hit it off. Chris and Curtis are two of the best

Engineers I've ever known incredible people. Visionary in architecture and design and uh really really enjoyed working with them. The CHP most companies were focused on developing were central processing units or CPUs, the general purpose chips that execute commands entered into a computer. But in the early '90s, Chris Curtis and Jensen were tasked with building something more challenging: a graphics card, a chip that could be inserted into Sun's workstations alongside the CPU to render graphics on screen. The three of us went about building this graphic subsystem that was challenging. LSI logic, who had announced that they knew how to build chips this size, had never done it, and we were able to get the job done, each sort of staying in our lane and being good at what we did. One year, there were quite a few changes in the computer architecture and the graphics architecture at Sun, and the architecture that Chris and Curtis worked on fell out of favor, and they decided to leave the company. Chris and Curtis reached out to me and asked me if I would like to leave MSI logic and join

them to build a company. First of all, none of us knew what company we would build. And I told them that, you know, I wish them well, they're going to do great. I was gainfully employed and really happy doing what I was doing. They kept asking me, and finally I said, well, you know, tell you what, the one we just go out and we can think through what kind of company you guys can go build. And so we would meet at Denny's, which is right at the corner of Capital and Beresa, this place in East San Jose. I used to wash dishes at Denny's, and I was a busboy at Denny's, and I was a waiter at Denny's. So I really like Denny's. I mean, Denny's. I consider my first company, you know. And so we would go hang out there, and it was always a fun thing for me and a fun thing for them. We just sit there and, you know, drink a bunch of coffee. And, you know, the thing that's really great about

Denny's is all you can drink. We'd show up, we'd order one bottomless cup of coffee, and then, you know, work for 4 hours. So we just sat there until we ran out of ideas, we ran out of things to talk about, and go home, and you know, come back and do it again. The PC Revolution was just beginning in earnest, and the trio recognized this as an important why now for their nent company. This is now 1993. The PC Revolution really started 1995. We knew that the PC was able to reach price points and a level of ease abuse that might actually have a chance to become, you know, quite pervasive. And so we were excited about the PC Revolution and, uh, we thought, okay, well, what application would we bring to the PC, and what would we enable as this computer becomes a consumer computer and goes into the home? You know, what would you do with it? Well, the one thing you would do with it more than anything in the world is play games.

capability, the graphics capability, the multimedia capability of the PC was non-existent. At the time, there were no sound, there was no microphones, there were no speakers, there no video, there's no Graphics. Basically, it was a text terminal, and we thought, you know, maybe 3D Graphics would be the thing that'd be really cool. And for the very first time, you have a platform that could both be a computer and used for, you know, whatever you want to use it for. You could also use it to play games, and we just need to go build a chip that makes it possible to play games. None of us had even seen a PC before, so we had to go buy a PC. We bought a Gateway 2000. Nobody even knows how to program Windows, or DOS, nobody even seen DOS, and so we had to tear it apart, start learning about the industry. If you were to go to market research firms and you ask them what what's the market sized for 3D graphics for PCs in 1993, the answer would have

been zero my name is Mark Stevens. I joined seoa in 1989, and in 1993, I became the seoa representative on the board of directors of Nvidia marus since left Square by the way but remains on nvidia's board. Chris Curtis and Jensen, who still hadn't left his job at alysi logic, wrestled with the idea of launching a company that made three Graphics chips for personal computers. But they realized if they were to move forward, they would have two major factors working against them. The first was competition. The market for 2D graphics for PCs was crowded. At this point, the differentiation here was Nvidia was going after 3D Graphics, but there's a whole raft of Chip copies that came out in the 1980s. You had companies like xyl linkx and Altera, companies like serus logic and chips and Technologies. One could argue, you know, why does why did the world need Nvidia? Why did the world need another Graphics chip company? In addition to a crowded chip Market, the

Second factor working against Nvidia was its target audience and the chips intended use. You know, the people who did gaming on PC at that point were teenagers. Gaming just didn't have a lot of respect. It just didn't feel like a first-year business that everybody got and everybody appreciated. And the overall gaming market was much smaller at the time versus the market for movies and other media forms. The gaming market has become huge on a worldwide basis, but back then, gaming on a PC was a fairly small application. Games were just thought of not serious applications. Alfred Lynn, a partner at Squir Capital, throughout my life, I've always been fascinated by Nvidia and fascinated with games. Even though I decided not to do any of that professionally, but I've been fascinated with game consoles and the graphics and how you could represent graphics the most efficient way. I would say a lot of things that don't seem serious, a lot of things that seem like toys can very much start out that way.

but over time they have this ability to blossom into other applications. The Crucible decision for Curtis, Chris, and Jensen was: do you enter a hyper-competitive field of trip making where you have to fight to stand out? And if you do, do you position your renovation as a 3D chip for gamers, an unproven market at the time, and bet on the potential of that market to grow? There are several things that we say in the company, and that is: do you believe it or not, the first principles say you start from your assumptions, whatever you believe, and you break it all down. And it says, therefore, you should do this, there go this. So why don't you do it? For what reason don't you do it? And so if you believe this is going to change the computing industry altogether, for what reason don't you take this first move, just start. I think it was towards the end of 1992, beginning of 1993, that I said, Okay, Chris and Curtis.

I'll go do it with you guys, and February 17th, my birthday in 1993, was my first day of work. The founders began looking for investors for their new company, and Jensen went to meet with his old boss, the head of Alisi Logic, Wilfred Cargan. Wil, look, if you're going to start a company, go talk to Don Valentine. And while I was sitting there, he picked up the phone and he said, Hey, Don, I'm going to send a kid your way. He's one of my best employees. I'm not sure what he's going to do, but give him money. I went to see Don Valentine was there, and he just scares you. And I was 29, I just turned 30. I did a horrible job with the pitch, but thankfully he was already instructed to uh, to give me money. Don, at the end, he just said one thing. He said, If you lose my money, I'll kill you. We were working in a small office at a strip mall. I think we probably hired up to 20 people or something like that.

and here we are. We're going to build a new chip for a new industry. And so, we just started from first principles and started building it up. And we specified this chip, called MV1. The MV1 chip was the first device of the company delivered to the market. I believe it took us 18 to 24 months to deliver the chip after the company was founded. And we thought it was going to be a great chip. The reality is the chip was a failure. It was a great technology achievement, it was a terrible product. You know, when you're done describing MV1, it sounds like an octopus. Because what kind of a chip does the PC industry buy that has 3D graphics, video processing, audio wave table processing, I/O port, game port acceleration, has this programming model called UDA, no applications that run for it. You know, what do you call this thing that sounds like an octopus. You know, when you pull it out of the box, it actually comes with these dongles. And these dongles make it kind of feel

like an octopus. And you need all these things because you got to, you know, connect the whole computer to it. The way I've always thought about it is we built a Swiss army knife with lots of functions, and the chip was overpriced for what the market wanted. The market wanted a 3D Graphics chip, and that's it. And they wanted it as cheap as they could get it and as fast as they could get it. And so, uh, it was a flop. Our customer partner, Diamond Multimedia, we sold them 250,000 mb1s. The retail sales wasn't very good, and so Diamond panicked. They returned basically most of those products to us. 250,000 units went out, 250,000, well, 249,000 came back, and practically put us out of business. We learned a lot from that failure. You know, nowadays people refer to this as product Market fit. And so we had a very good product, but the fit was not there, V ofv pricing and functionality. I had to learn all of

those things and you know how do you position against the competition because the customer is always thinking of Alternatives, and so your PC companies are trying to figure out, okay, so this mv1, you can't compare to anything, but it's not as good as this thing at this, it's not as good as that thing at that, but it's incredibly good together, it's really hard to buy things like that, nobody goes to the store device with army up, and it's something you get for Christmas, and so in every single way, way from product strategy go to market, how to think about the competition, I think about positioning, how do you even price it, uh, not to mention why would you go build such a thing in the beginning, or there are other ways to go build it, I mean the list of mistakes that we made and that I made in the first three years of the company, you could really write a book, I think the lesson that we learned at seoa was that we might have been too early, you know, the investing in

the 3D Graphics PC market, and that's always a risk or a fear that we have as early stage investors. The failure mechanism for most Venture-backed technology companies is that they're too early to Market, not too late to Market. We were out there sort of waiting, you know, on our surfboard in the Pacific Ocean, waiting for that big wave, Market wave, to come in. And you know, if the wave never comes in, you never get to Shore, and you freeze to death out in the middle of the ocean. While the failure of the nv1 chip was apparent, there was a bright spot on the horizon. The company was simultaneously developing the nv2 in partnership with the video game company Sega. Sega's latest game at the time was, you know, Virtual Fighter and Daytona and Virtual Cop, and you know, really, really fantastic 3D arcade games. They were completely revolutionary. Sega was also looking for a partner to build their next Generation console, and it opened doors for us, both in trying to build their next Generation console as well as encouraging them to

take the Sega games over to PCS on the engineering side. The NV1 and NV2 were developed to support an architecture that rendered images using quadrangles. When Nvidia first launched, it was the only company in the market making 3D Graphics chips for PCs. But soon, other 3D Graphics companies began to emerge, and their chips supported a different type of architecture, one that rendered images using triangles. The architecture we chose was clever at the time, but it turned out to have been the wrong architecture completely. This is 1995. Microsoft had come out with Windows 95 and the API called DirectX is the architecture that everybody else uses, except us. We had never even implemented a graphics architecture like DirectX before, and the rest of the industry, now some 50 companies, are all over us. And so, the question is, what do we do? If we had finished that game console with Sega and fulfilled our contract, we would have spent two years working on the wrong architecture while everybody else is racing ahead in this new world that, quite frankly, we kind of

started. On the other hand, if we didn't finish the contract, then we run out of money. And so, I was confronted with a situation where we would finish the project and die, or not finish the project and die right away. Your first trip is a failure, and your second trip is doomed. Nvidia had arrived at a crucible moment. Do you finish the job you started and hope the revenue can sustain you, or do you break your contract, scrap your entire architecture, and start from scratch? This existential moment for our company was pretty difficult, you know, heated discussion among us to try to figure out what to do. And I think the final decision was the right one, one which is we have to figure out what is the right path forward long-term and work our way back. And the long-term answer, of course, is we have to support this new architecture, this new graphics AR. It's called inverse texture mapping, and we have to abandon the forward texture mapping architecture that we had started. And whatever we have to do to achieve that is the right thing to do.

I went to Sega, and to the credit of their CEO, IR Madrean, I told them, Our circumstance is that if we finish this game console for you, our company would be out of business, and quite frankly, I think that this architecture that we would build for you would be the wrong architecture because the world is moving towards this other approach called immersive rendering architecture. Maing, he asked me what I'm asking him to do. So I told him that although there's no reason for him to do this, I would like him to let us off of our contract, relieve us of our responsibility of fulfilling the contract, but pay us in full. And they got absolutely nothing out of it. There's no reason for him to do it, and he thought about it for a couple days. And you know, came back to me and said, You know, I'd like to help you. You can't discount the kindness of people when you're starting your company. When you benefit from the kindness of all the people that support.

you but in this particular case it was some $5 million. I think it was that they continued pay us. It was all the money that we had, and it gave us just enough money to hunker down after the failure of nv1. And then after nv2 sort of being abandoned, we were very concerned as investors. You know, at this point, we're probably three years into the company, something like that. And uh, it wasn't clear if Nvidia was ever going to sort of have Escape velos. One of the things that Jensen uh, he said this for many, many years was, We're only 30 days away from going out of business. Well, the fact of the matter is on a few occasions in the mid-90s, that was true from, you know, because we were burning cash and developing through these uh, Graphics devices. You needed some of the best Hardware in Silicon engineers in Silicon Valley, and these folks do not come cheaply, especially when we were competing with Silicon Graphics, which was sort of a Jugger at the time for engineering.

talent and Apple at the time. So we were very concerned about are we going to lose this company or not with the L of their resources. The company mounted one more attempt at a breakthrough chip. We only got one shot and if you have one shot, that chip has to be perfect. But how do you build a perfect chip the first time? Nobody knew how to do that because in the old days, you would build a chip, bring it up, write software for it, find bugs, iterate the chip, tape it out again, bring up more software until you get it done. So tape out to production was often times at least a year, year and a half. I told the team that look, we we get one tape out and they said why? Because if we need more than one tape out, we don't need it, we'll be out of business. And so we get one shine in times of crisis when real quality CEOs are on display and this was a time where we as investors and board members discovered that Jensen was really unique in the way he managed a

crisis. I said, Let's work backwards. If we get one shot, what do we have to do to make sure that that one shot was perfect? And so we have to do all the software in advance. We had to do everything in advance. And we did it in about six to seven, eight months and, uh, on complete fumes. And there was this other company that went out of business at the time. And I'd heard about it. It's called iOS. And iOS had built this thing called an emulator, an end system emulator. We called iOS. They said, Thanks for calling, but we're out of business. And I said, Really? That's insane. We really could use one of your instruments. It's like the size of a refrigerator. You plug it into the, uh, the PC that you want to emulate for and you pretend. It's called emulation. You pretend like you're the final chip. And he says, We have one in the warehouse that's in inventory. If you want it, we'll sell it to you. And so we bought the scraps out of a company that

was going out of business, and we emulated uh Revo 128 mv3, the first PC chip the world's ever emulated, and we taped out the chip, and the chip worked the first time, unsurprisingly to me, anyhow, that the genius of the people that were at Nvidia would come up with the world's best inverse texture mapping engine, in completely crushed everyone, and revolutionized what we know today about modern computer Graphics. We changed the way that chips were designed, we changed the way that you tape out chips, the way almost everything about our company today. Um, yeah, we Sav the company. The Rea 128 was a feat of engineering, and in its first four months, sold 1 million units. Even more importantly, the expedited process of building, building, and testing the Reaver allowed Nvidia to then launch its next chips at a Cadence more than twice as fast as competitors. At the beginning, Nvidia was behind, but soon, probably soon after 1999, they were just far ahead of their competition, and you can just see

it. So when Quake 3 Arena came out in 1997, you just could see how much better the Nvidia chips performed against others. Nvidia's fifth chip was its first programmable chip. It was called the GeForce 256. That was the world's first GPU, and that was um adding programmability to acceleration. So we created the world's first programmable accelerator. A programmable accelerator is accelerated Computing, and the benefit of accelerator is whatever you designed it to do, it does it incredibly efficiently. And so no matter how effective a CPU is, with a programmable accelerator, you could be a thousand times more effective. This programmability would prove critical to the company's next chapter, but it also paid immediate dividends. With programmable shaders enabled by GeForce GPUs, video games exploded in creativity and popularity. Nvidia went public in 1999, and in a twist of fate, Microsoft, whose DirectX architecture nearly sidelined Nvidia in its early years, chose GeForce to power its new project, the Xbox. It took five generations for them to get

this Graphics acceleration right before they produced their first GPU, and so the company was founded in 1993. I don't think they released the G4S 256 until late 1999, so it was a long time of just iterating, iterating, iterating until they got it right to produce the first GPU unit. If you solve really hard problems that nobody else can solve, which is what Nvidia has done, and you're patient, you can build a tremendous company over time. The success of the GeForce carried Nvidia into the mid-2000s, but as with all companies that break new ground, eventually competitors catch up. While Nvidia had solidified its position as a major player in the 3D Graphics market for PC games, over time its shine began to fade. The PC market at that point was starting to assume to toote and growth, and we were worried about that. Since we were selling into the PC, we still had to contend with Intel as a competitor, AMD to some extent, and so we felt we were always

going to be sort of boxed into the PC gaming market and always knocking heads with Intel. If we didn't develop a brand new market that nobody else was in, Nvidia had invented the GPU and it was a programmable device, which means that it could be programmed and adapted for applications outside of gaming. The 2006 release of CUDA, a general-purpose programming interface for Nvidia's GPUs, opened the door for use cases far beyond gaming: molecular dynamics, seismic processing, CT reconstruction, image processing, and a whole bunch of different things. I remember starting to hear and musing about a lot of graduate students for their research found these, you know, graphics chips at their local electronic store and they were writing simulators on them and doing research on them. Universities after another researchers realized that by buying this gaming card called GeForce, you add it to your computer, you essentially have a personal supercomputer. One of the scientists that I saw was in Taiwan and he was a quantum chemist and I was in Taiwan at the time and he reached out to me and said you

you know come and see something. And I went to National Taiwan University and he opened his closet, and there was his giant array of gForce cards sitting on all these shelves with these house fans rotating, and he said, I built my own personal supercomputer. And he said to me that because of our work, because of your work, he's able to do his work in his lifetime. And I, simultaneously, Andrew Ang, was working on deep learning at the time. So around 2008-2009, my students and I started to work on and push the idea that GPUs could be used for deep learning for neural networks. Hi, my name is Andrew. I'm managing general partner of AI fund, Avengers studio, and I also lead deep learning.ai and Landing AI. You know, neural networks have been around for a long time, for many decades, and still have GPUs, but I think the convergence of these two ideas came for a couple reasons. One is we finally had enough data that we needed that compute to feed.

into new networks. And then there was one other breakthrough technology I remember at Sanford when my students were telling me, Hey Andrew, does this thing called K there not that easy to program, but they're letting people use GPUs for something different. Could we build a server to use GPUs and see if they could scale up deep learning? And one of my students at the time, Ian Goodfellow, who was my undergrad, helped me build a GPU server in his LA room. And that server wound up being what we used for our first deep learning experiments to train neuron networks. We started to see 10x or even 100x speedups training new networks on GPUs because we could do a thousand or 10,000 things in parallel rather than one step after another. That's a total game changer of what you can do with new networks. Meanwhile, in Toronto, Canada, Hinton's lab was doing the same thing. Yan LA's lab in New York University was doing the same thing. They all kind of simultaneously reached out to us, and we realized that

maybe there's a new type of computing model that we could create. This was just before Alex net, the first breakthrough in computer image recognition in 2012, and years before Alo AI was still a niche pursuit. The biggest risk of trying to pursue the AI Market was very similar to the risks the company had encountered back at its founding. The market for AI chips in 2012-20145, it was a zero billion dollar market, and Jensen always likes to say that, you know, we're investing in Z billion dollar markets. This would be spending R&D dollars on a market that may never materialize. There was no guarantee that AI would ever really emerge because, keep in mind, AI I had had many stops and starts over the last 40 years. I mean, AI has been around as a computer science concept for decades, but it had never really taken off as a huge Market opportunity. This is the type of risk that, unless, uh, you've survived building a startup, you're probably allergic to doing, and the reason for

that is at this time, we're public. We're a multibillion-dollar company. We're actually successful now, and you know, we've dodged several life-threatening challenges. Nobody wants to derail the company. They want to defend the company and protect the company. Success can make you risk-averse. For two decades, Nvidia had been synonymous with chips for gaming on PCs. Should the company stay in its lane or stake their future on a market that was unproven but which leadership and researchers around the world felt had enormous potential? At some point, somebody said, You know, this actually is a way to expand the market. There's a lot of opportunity for computation that wasn't strictly put a color up on the screen. So, in order to capture that and maybe take advantage of this growing undercurrent of desire to get access to this, you know, Jensen and the team were willing to go for a billion-dollar business to on the hopes because you got to believe what you got to believe, then you put your money with your mouth.

this so if we thought this was likely to be an important segment of the market that we could tap into that we could grow our TAM. To then, then you do but you know, I credit a lot of people, not me, with the courage to just go do it and uh, and, let's see where it takes us. Nvidia made a crucible decision that would change not only its own trajectory but that of the entire technology industry. They would commit to AI Computing. This was a giant pivot for our company. We're adding cost, we're adding people, we have to learn new skills. It took our attention away from our normal day-to-day competition in computer graphics and gaming. The company's focus was steered away from its core business and it wasn't just in one place, is all over the company. It was a wholesale pivot in this new direction. To Jensen's credit, I saw him leap early and place a very significant bet. He started to allocate more resources to it pretty quickly. I was impressed that the CEO of a large

company that he saw it clearly enough to commit his compet to this direction early as a CEO or anybody who's trying to steer the the ship in a New Direction you have to have some intermittent some some near-term positive reinforcements, and so you have to keep promoting the idea whenever something good happens. Uh that reinforces the direction you're going you have to you know put into perspective what is this, why is this important, how does this help us get to the next level when we pivoted to ship in that direction, uh we sought out every single AI researcher on the planet, and our platform being useful to them was the positive feedback that we were getting at the time, which is the reason why I'm friends with you know all of the world's great, um AI researchers, they were all helpful in providing the early indications of future success along the way for me, and you got to make a big deal out of those small wins I think we realized that Nvidia was the spearhead of the AI Revolution really within the last two to 3 years, we saw our gpus

being adopted by large-scale data centers and cloud service providers, we began to see the applications again in transportation, health care. That was really when we discovered, Hey, this is going to be a very diverse and a multi-billion dollar opportunity that had, you know, 10 years or 15 years in front of it. For the last 30 years or so, the computer industry has been advancing at about 10 times every 5 years. Moore's Law, Moore's Law is the famous prediction that CPU performance will double roughly every 2 years or 10 times every 5 years. Now with AI, we're advancing at the chip level, at the system level, at the algorithm level, and also at the AI level. And so because you have so many different layers moving at the same time, for the very first time, we're seeing compounded exponentials. And if you go back and just look at how far we've gone since ImageNet, AlexNet, we've advanced computing by about a million times, not a thousand times, a million times, not a 100.

times a million times, and we're here now compounding at a million times every 10 years. This new pace at which computing is advancing a million times every 10 years has been affectionately dubbed Hang's Law. And so, the question is, what can you solve in the past that you were waiting for a million times to solve a problem that you thought, you know, I could solve this probably in about 30 years? Well, if you can solve it in about 30 years, you're probably going to solve it in five. That's the big realization, that's groundbreaking, that's really the reason why I think it's an inflection point. Things that look far on the horizon, you really, really got to think about it not in decade time frame but in years time frame. Nvidia's acceleration of computing now includes a platform for transforming data centers and cloud computing and extends beyond AI to anything that can be simulated. As Jensen looks to the future, Nvidia is already building hardware and software for everything from digital twins to climate modeling to drug

Discovery everybody suddenly wants to know where we came from. I find it humorous that where the hell these guys come from, you know, we thought they were just gaming, and suddenly the CUDA stuff, it allowed us to make a difference in markets that weren't gaming, which I think then helped people value the fact that gaming was such a strong market and such an economically large Market. We did what was necessary to continue to move the needle, stay in business long enough to let the ideas come together. I met somebody the other day, and she said, How do you feel about your success? And I said, Well, feels like this overnight success was 30 years in the making. This a concept we talk about at Squa called the time span of discretion. What is the time scale across which you operate? How do you stretch your imagination to make an enduring impact? No founder has embodied this notion like Jensen. It's been 30 years since Nvidia launched. Not many of us think in 30-year time frames, and paradoxically by seeing

its decades-long vision through the fruition today in VI technology is enabling us to accomplish far more in far less time every CEO's job is supposed to look around corners. By definition, we should be able to connect more dots. The CEO also has to be the most bold about what opportunities, what problems we can go solve that nobody imagines us solving. You want to be the person who believes the company can achieve more than the company believes it can. When you're a startup CEO, you're zero and you're trying to become something more than that. The idea that you would be a global anything is insanely ambitious by almost all measures. We shouldn't be here. There are only so many diving catches you can make in life, and it's not just diving catch. It doesn't mean luck. It does require a lot of effort. You have to realize it's existential. You have to be surrounded by amazing people, and the people that did those diving catches, many of them, most of them, are still here.

pretty amazing. This has been Crucible Moments, a podcast from Sequoia Capital. We'll be back with Season 2 next year. If you have an idea for a company we should feature, questions about company building, or any feedback on the show, we'd love to hear from you. Email us at ideas@cruciblemoments.com. In the meantime, keep an eye out for bonus material coming soon. Thanks for listening. Crucible Moments is produced by the Epic Stories and Fox Creative Podcast teams, along with Sequoia Capital. Special thanks to Jensen Wong, Chris Malinoski, Alfred Lin, Andrew Ng, and Mark Stevens for sharing their stories.

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