While world leaders hold a summit at the UN to maintain international peace and security, although none of them were formally appointed,

the G's, insisting they are representatives of each country, gather for the peace and security of the world's youth

to hold the Abnormal Summit. Now, a youth conference without country borderlines. Today is August 15th, Korean Independence Day.

We'd like to commemorate the 71st anniversary of our independence. So we'll take this theme to our discussion...

talking about colonialism and independence. For this special Independence Day special, we've invited 11 representatives here today.

We've arranged them accordingly. If you see here, this side has been through some hardships. Meanwhile, the other side has experienced some guilt.

First, let's look at the period from 1757 to 1947,

that comes out to be 190 years. These two have a rooted relationship: England and India.

Please introduce yourselves. I am 26 and from London. My name is Nathan Jackson. It's been two years since I came to Korea.

I'm working in marketing for a whiskey company. What kind of whiskey is it? It's an Irish whiskey.

It's a triple-distilled, smoother whiskey. Please look for it in stores. Your sales skills are great.

(England's Nathan versus India's Lucky) Next, we have something to rival English imperialism.

From 1890 to 1958, they were under French rule. It's Guinea and France.

(Good afternoon, I'm Gassim Fofana from Guinea.) (I've been in Korea for three years.)

(To be here, discussing my country's history of independence) (is a really great opportunity. Thank you very much.)

Is French the main language in Guinea? Yes. We speak French in our country. Frankly, the Guinean people

still harbor some unpleasant feelings against France. But today, I'll try my best to share some meaningful information.

He was saying all of that while staring at Aurelien, square in the face. (France's Aurelien versus Guinea's Gassim)

The next case happened around the same time between Korea and Japan. It was during 1912 to 1951.

It's Libya and its colonizer, Italy. (Hello, my name is Amira. I'm 25 years old.)

(I'm a student at Seoul National University.) (I'm here to discuss Libya and its relations with Italy.)

Hello, my name is Amira. I'm a student at Seoul National University. As a Libyan representative here,

I'll be addressing my people's grievances today. (Italy's Alberto versus Libya's Amira)

Next is our highlight, alongside Korea-Japan relations. This country was also a colony: China and Japan. It's great to have you here.

-Hello. -Hello. What kind of stance will you take today? I'll say this to Japan: Prepare yourself for today.

(Japan will face some difficulties.) He's going to be focused on Japan today. That came out of nowhere.

Oogi, it's been a while. Prepare yourself. For me, I just hope for peace.

I don't hate you. I hope to be able to have a discussion. I hope for a good time.

It seems like Oogi isn't even bothered. He definitely has the most courage to come here.

-Yes. -Thank you so much. It could be a hard place for you. (China's Wang Simlin versus Korea's [?] versus Japan's Oogi)

The next country was once a British colony, but they did take over Mexican lands. It's the USA.

-Donald Trump has rekindled some fires recently. -Yes. And Mexico is upset about it.

In the show today, I'm going to enlighten you about what the Spanish—and the Americans—have done to us. -Gosh.

-He said "what they've done." -That's the right word for it. Though I really love my country,

I'd like to be humble and honest today. (Mexico's Christian versus US Mark)

Also, we have the core of World War II. -Of course, we have Nik from Germany. -That's right.

There seems to be an empty seat, though. Right, we can't leave out a Korean representative, can we?

Who's visiting us today? Today's guest is fluent in five languages, has attended four international studies,

wrote and published 18 bestsellers. But he is still younger than me. We got him here today to share his knowledge with us.

He's a world-history fanatic, writer Cho Seung-yeon. Welcome! (The Korean representative for ep 111, Cho Seung-yeon)

Welcome. (Cho Seung-yeon, age 36, a Korean author) Hello. I really wanted to be on this show.

I'm such a hardcore fan. I couldn't believe that I'd be carrying the Korean flag...

-and walking through those doors. -Can we sit first? Please introduce yourself. Hello. I've been writing since I was 17...

and written just as many books. My name is Cho Seung-yeon. My hobby is foreign languages.

As I can see, we have the native speakers for the languages I've been studying.

I'm really glad to be here. How many languages can you speak? I've lived in a few countries.

I'm able to communicate fluently in four languages: Korean, English, French, and Italian.

I can converse clearly in those four.  -I've lived in France for close to five years. -Really?

(I lived in Paris for five years.) (It was a great time in my youth.) (So whenever I see a French person, I feel happy.)

(Because they remind me of my time there.) (-Are French people good at English? -No.)

(No? I understand.) (Their "th" and "r" pronunciations are terrible.)

(But you can communicate with them in English?) (Maybe sometimes.) -Is he pretty much a native speaker? -Yes.

Alberto and I became close as drinking buddies. (We've known each other for a while, right?) (When did you go home?)

(Last night?) (-Last time? -The last time we drank.) (Around 3:30 AM.)

How's his Italian? He's really good. Did you live in Italy? I lived there for two months.

Two months makes you this good? But... He had an Italian girlfriend. I was with her for a long time.

Since it was for a while, I realized we were fighting mostly in Italian. What does that mean?

"Are you crazy?" I heard that often, actually. His Italian specializes in relationship fights. Also, I really did try to study German.

But, having never lived there... and studying it alone, it probably sounds awkward. Please try it.

(I'm always scared to speak German.) (I never had a teacher. I learned it by myself.) (My pronunciation probably sounds weird.)

(You had no teacher?) - What are you guys saying?
- He really surprised me. He said this is all self-taught, without a teacher.

I could really understand what he's saying. Then that's good enough. It's really good enough.

How long did you live in China? - I've never actually lived there.
- Did you study by yourself?

He's right next to you. (Who are you talking to?) Where are you looking?

(I started learning Chinese about a year ago.) (Are you still interested in Chinese?) (Along with Alberto,)

(I went on a Chinese culture program.) (I'm really interested in Chinese history and culture.) How much time and effort would this take?

How about Japanese? My Japanese... uh... You shouldn't do it. All right. Wait, why?

I only recently started studying it. Please learn it well. So we can see that you're great with languages.

But your expertise really shows with world history. We've heard that you're quite knowledgeable. Is that your specialty?

If you look at my books, they're mostly about history. Since I was focused on learning from original documents,

I can't really say I'm uniquely profound, but I like to think that I know some things others don't.

If you're studying culture and history, learning the language comes naturally, right? If you're learning the languages,

you're also learning the culture and history as well. We really have a great guest here today.

As we mentioned, we have former colonies and colonizers here. Do you have a country here that makes you a bit uneasy?

Frankly, as a Korean, having Japan in attendance... makes me want to get some things off my chest.

Having said that, we're curious as to how Oogi would react. Oogi, don't leave us in the middle of filming.

How old are you, Oogi? I'm 25 years old. He's a 25-year-old Japanese man.

It'd be meaningful to hear his point of view. - You shouldn't take this personally. - Right.

Let's get into it. It's our 111th episode, an Independence Day special. (Let's get this started.)

Of course, opinions differ between colonizers and colonized. We're curious how you perceive the colonial period.

Let's start with the longtime British colony, India. Before the English arrived,

France and Portugal tried to exert their influence. However, they couldn't overthrow the Indian dynasties.

Even the English, in the 17th century, thought it was impossible to conquer India by force.

So they resorted to inciting internal conflicts, using the so-called "Divide and Rule" strategy.

They proceeded to rule India for about 200 years. Honestly, the English invaded us using dirty, underhanded tactics.

Even when leaving, they were clever. They separated part of India as Pakistan when they left.

As you can see, the religious unrest between Hindus and Muslims is still persisting even after they left.

So, having endured 200 years of suffering under British rule, Indians...

They redirected their anger towards the Pakistanis for the last 70 years. Ironically, you hate them more.

The fact is that England didn't just divide the country. I think we actually helped develop India. We did establish the East India Company after all.

Therefore, the flow of Indian goods to Europe helped the nation's exports and exposure. In turn, it created a bit of wealth within the society, too.

Politically, we introduced them to democracy as well. England was the first to introduce it to India.

We wanted India to become a bigger democratic state... I could say "Wow. Thank you so much", but

Their point of view definitely differed. So this is how it feels. Why are we getting upset as well?

Before they invaded us, India had a nickname, "The Golden Bird". As such, the country had abundant resources,

and rarities like gold and gemstones. To say that England played a big part in developing India...

in the process of colonization... would be an overstatement. It is quite clear that England used India in the most cruel way.

They destroyed pre-existent industries in India... and turned the whole country into a giant factory to support the industrialization of England.

Indian imported goods were charged with a 400 percent tax at the English borders, while English goods were imported into India without any tax at all.

So financially, one can argue that England did great damage to India's economy. It's true that people believe India has gone through

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