조 로건의 팟캐스트: 긴장감 넘치는 인터뷰와 어색한 순간들

### 조 로건 인터뷰의 예측할 수 없는 역학 관계
* 🔥 조 로건의 인터뷰는 종종 예상치 못한 대립으로 이어지곤 하는데, 예를 들어 기후 변화에 대해 캔디스 오웬스와 열띤 논쟁을 벌이다가 조가 **과학자의 87%가 지구 온난화를 인간 활동의 탓**으로 돌린다는 사실을 인용했음에도 불구하고 그녀는 "나는 기후 변화를 믿지 않는다"고 단호하게 말했던 일이 있습니다.
* 🌊 긴장이 고조되는 가운데 조는 **"모든 종류의 해안 도시에 부정적인 영향을 미칠 수 있다"고 강조**하며 기후 위기에 대한 끔찍한 그림을 그렸지만, 오웬스는 자신의 신념을 굳건히 지켰습니다.
* 🥊 또 다른 사례에서 조는 복서 토미 퓨리의 정통성을 두고 데이브 포트노이와 충돌했고, 조는 **"이 어머니는 100% 복서"**라고 주장했지만 포트노이는 이를 일축하는 혼란스러운 순간이 이어졌습니다.
* 🚗 조는 마리화나 합법화와 교통 사망사고에 대해 **스티븐 크라우더와 격렬한 논쟁**을 벌였고, 조는 **마리화나가 유익**하다고 주장한 반면 크라우더는 이에 반대하며 **개인적인 모욕**으로 발전했습니다.
* 🗳 에피소드 1882에서 조와 게스트가 정치 후보에 대한 의견을 토론하다 **개인 투표 선택에 대한 의견 불일치**로 이어진 것처럼, 정치 토론은 갈등을 불러일으키기도 했습니다.
* 🥗 두 명의 다이어트 전문가가 서로 다른 영양학적 신념에 대해 서로 모욕을 주고받는 긴장감 넘치는 대화에서 조는 여러 번 개입해야 했고, 이는 **프로그램의 논쟁적인 분위기**를 부각시켰습니다.
* 💔 이 프로그램에서는 조 실링이 개인적인 상실에 대한 조의 감정적 공유를 실수로 무시하는 등 어색한 순간도 있었는데, 이는 그의 **인터뷰가 예측할 수 없는 성격**임을 보여줍니다.
* 🌍 궁극적으로 조 로건의 팟캐스트는 **다양한 의견이 충돌하는 플랫폼**으로, 깨달음을 주는 토론과 시청자를 긴장하게 만드는 불편한 긴장감이 공존합니다.

조 로건의 인터뷰는 종종 격렬한 논쟁을 불러일으키며 신념과 관점의 깊은 분열을 드러냅니다.

from heated debates to awkward silences Joe Rogan's interviews don't always go as planned like when Joe clashed with political commentator Candace Owens you don't think we have to care about the environment like we no not even a little bit like not even a little bit no okay

let me let me clarify this I don't throw trash on the ground like I'm not saying like we need to like you know trash the environment like um but do I believe in climate change no Joe challenged her argument suggesting the issue's complexity and questioning Candace's qualifications

yet tensions only rose as the podcast's producer Jamie Vernon cited a website to bolster Joe's stance in 2014 the vast majority 87% of scientists said that human activity is driving global warming yet only half the American public ascribed to that view so yeah I don't I

don't believe this like at all just so you know you can pull that up too like scientists who look up I guess look up the opposite right instead of instead of looking for what you're searching for looking for what you're not looking for Joe would then proceed to emphasize the

severity of the climate crisis painting a vivid picture of its potential impact this could negatively impact all sorts of coastal cities this could be a gigantic problem this is not like propaganda that's drummed up by some sort of big business that seeks to make

money off of this nevertheless Candace remained unfazed and held fast to her beliefs fueling the conflict's escalation I don't believe it's real okay so I can't hear the question but why have a belief what do you mean why have a

belief as to whether or not global warming is real or not real. It's not a belief in it. I don't believe in it. However, after persistent questioning, Joe ultimately got Candice to concede that she wasn't fully informed on the topic. How about not have a belief until you

really so you would prefer if my language as opposed to admitting that I do not know this. I wouldn't die in this. I've never made of you. I've never made a public statement. You would have preferred if I had just started by saying I, I have no, I have no opinion, no

I don't know. Okay. And while Rogan kept his composure during his debate with Candace Owens, the same could not be said for his argument with Barstool founder Dave Portnoy. The confrontation began when Portnoy dismissed British professional boxer and reality TV star Tommy Fury, 

asserting that he wasn't a legitimate boxer. I, I saw Tommy Fury box. He is not a boxer. Well, he's definitely a boxer. Well, he puts on gloves. He's definitely a boxer, but is he a boxer like his brother? No. As the younger brother of former

world heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury, Tommy often faces comparisons that overshadow his own achievements, a perspective that Portnoy appeared to echo. We would not know who Tommy Fury was if his last name wasn't Fury, probably. We wouldn't know as much about

him. I don't, but he's still a good-looking guy. He's built great. He, you know, he looks like, looks the, looks the part, looks the part. The conversation veered sharply downhill as Joe introduced a video displaying Tommy Fury's boxing prowess, sparking rising

tensions shut the up this find the Tommy Fury find the Tommy Fury Fight On Shut the cannot please shut up and watch this watch what he's doing this mother is 100% a boxer you find me the record of this stop watch this watch this look at

this you're out of your mind if you don't look at this think what that's that was in slow motion I think it's not in slow motion I think you slowed that down no if you don't think so you're just being a hater yet nothing compares

to the way Joe lost his cool during a debate with Steven Crowder about the impact of weed legalization on motor vehicle accidents a traffic fatalities regarding marijuana have skyrocketed Google that cuz that's nonsense D drunk driving arrests have dropped what do you mean you've first of

all I wrote about what the sources original s just because someone gets in an accident and they're high because hold on stop no you interrupt way too much you need to stop the scene unfolded with Joe openly criticizing Steven's demeanor setting the stage for a clash

of perspectives and personalities marijuana is one of the things that are good and Fe don't Shore man just like you don't Shore turmeric you don't Shore Ginger you don't Shore A reduced sugar diet all those things that reduce inflammation are good for you I I don't

I don't buy that smoking marijuana would be as beneficial as to reduce sugar diet and my point is that people get so offended saying that and saying but if you want to smoke go ahead you might be correct it doesn't matter because it's not a contest to see what's the most

beneficial things only got worse when Joe's introduction of a study led to a heated exchange of personal insults instead of constructive discussion. Since marijuana legalization, Highway fatalities in Colorado are at near record highs. Bringing up the source that you want to finding, bring up the study right.

There, yeah, Washington Post, bring up the study that we wrote, we wrote about on our website. Look, I don't care about your website. Since marijuana legalization, Highway fatalities in Colorado are since you called me, you called me while Rogan didn't shy away from mocking.

Crowder's website, he also showcased his own unapologetic self-importance during a cringeworthy moment on The Joe Rogan Experience episode 1572. How are you so good at rock paper scissors? It's just, you know, skill, muscle intuition, intuition. Can we play right?

Now, now, you want to play? Yes, oh, but I only play for stakes. Okay, what do you want to play for? How about uh, if I win, I do the programming on your show for a week. No, that's worth a lot of money. You can, what kind of money? What do you think I'm

I'm not saying like the ads or whatever, like programming like who's going to be on, who's going to be on. That's not possible. We're booked up months and months in advance. You were so confident until just now. Pick a month, few months off. That's ridiculous to flip a coin on.

That, there, there's no chance. Well, do you think that there's something of equivalent value? No, there's nothing, nothing that I can do. No, there's nothing that you could give me that would be worth a week of programming on the show. What are you going to give me? You about

you'd have to give me a spectacular amount of money. I sent you a... all right, sounds like someone's scared to lose at rock paper scissors. It sounds like someone else is scared to lose. No, you're asking me for something that's ridiculous. You don't have anything you

don't have anything that's worth a week of programming on this show. You don't have it. That's rough. Doesn't exist. That's rough. No, it doesn't. It literally doesn't exist. Like, there's no, like, you don't, there's nothing that you can have that

you could offer me that I couldn't buy myself. I'll make your, I'll make, I'll, I'll think will be interesting. You enjoy talking with them. You can't. No. All right, fine. But that doesn't do anything for me. However, this wasn't the only extremely

awkward moment Rogan has had on his show. In episode 607, a cringe-inducing exchange unfolded as Rogan unintentionally disregarded kickboxer Joe Schilling's heartfelt sharing of his life's traumas. It was a really tough fight for me, too.

You know, I had a, it was a really bad camp. It was probably the worst camp in my career. I, uh, my dad had passed away like 3 weeks before the fight. Then, like two or three days after that... why does that look so shitty, Jamie? My cousin passed

away. So boom. Comedian Shane Gillis was also about to find out firsthand just how awkward interviews on the Joe Rogan Experience could be. If I get fired here, whatever, I'll just go do Joe Rogan next week, and I'll be fine anyway. I thought

that was funny no what I was like I I literally thought I literally thought that oh okay yeah I thought it'd be funny well it could have been funny yeah I was booked up though no it's fine I it was just funny to truly that was a conversation I actually

had however nothing makes for more uncomfortable viewing than Joe arguing with his own friend Eddie Bravo who fanatically clings to the belief that the Earth is flat show me a real picture show me a real picture listen NASA does not have one of those satellites fake

why do you think that's fake fake why does it look fake looks like it looks like something you'd see in a movie that's because when they do it in a movie they try to make it look like this which is what looks real if that's real

to you man think it's real they faked the moon landing stop saying that because it's irrelevant why would it be fake propaganda man Eddie sparked the fiery debate with the brazen declaration that photos of around Earth are all fake Joe undeterred then demanded proof of a

genuine Flat Earth image igniting a quest for truth amidst the clash of beliefs is there a photo of this Flat Earth no I like I just said again there is no there's no photo of of the Flat Earth uh from space there's no photo of

the round Earth from space true that's not true no those why do you say they're fake though what they look fake they look CGI but you're not an expert in imagery cornered and under pressure Eddie countered with a bold claim asserting that Joe's sources were

allegedly paid to perpetuate the conspiracy hey where did you get this information J Jamie where'd you get it where'd I get what this information what is this coming from this is coming off the internet exactly so you're reading some information I'm reading some

information you didn't go to the library it's on Wikipedia slow down there sources here there's a book called The American Journal of Science I'm sure that a lot which is bought and paid for well maybe it is it's bought and paid for it's part of that here's the thing

Eddie why it's like the Washington Post Eddie why would anybody be paying money for people to lie about the Earth spinning Eddie would proceed to vehemently deny that the Earth was spinning dismissing the existence of concrete evidence to support such a

phenomenon Eddie people have known it's spinning forever that's how you that's how the seasons work that's how you see the sun we spin around that's why it makes that's why you can track time zones that's why you can put a piece of

stick in the ground you're saying all the the corre it acts as a sundial after a lengthy exchange lasting more than 40 minutes tensions mounted between the pair until Joe reached his breaking point I used to say the same you're talking about the Earth

flat thousands of scientists look into it you think they're all wrong that's so insane you haven't looked into it I have no you have oh my God how could I not have you don't think I have I'm watching you go down the rabbit hole you don't

think I try to pay attention to what these people are talking about. It doesn't work. I don't think so. Eddie, there's websites dedicated to debunking it. There's so many people working on these things. Eddie, the idea that they're all in on some sort of a giant Global

lie is insane. However, few topics create as much discomfort as Politics, as seen in episode 1882 of The Joe Rogan Experience where a simple comment about a political candidate rapidly spiraled into a disagreeable exchange. We look for someone who makes us feel good, like, "I'll

feel good voting for him. I don't like her, she's a..." and they just decide this is how I'm voting, you know? Like that's... I mean that was a lot of people's perspectives on Hillary Clinton. I talked to... L sure everyone loved her. I'm pretty sure she

she the most loved? I... I was... I... I liked Elizabeth Warren. She's cool. I just like... same, I liked her. I like... I like her tenacity. Yeah, but... but okay, who isn't? Yeah, Bernie Sanders. Okay, but did you vote for Bernie? He wasn't available to

vote for. Did you vote in the... I didn't vote for in the primaries, right? Yeah, uh... I but I had him on my podcast and he was very sincere. Okay, cool. I've had my mom on my podcast. You want to flex? I'm just saying I think he's very

sincere. But what about when Joe's guests disagree with each other, as seen in episode 1267 where two diet specialists with differing views began a heated debate about nutrition? You talked for a long time and I'm going to talk for as

long as I want now the pair would go on to trade a series of underhanded jabs at one another resulting in a distinctly tense atmosphere the data are very clear on that Gary so no no no yes they are look we have data we can't say things like

that Stefan cuz we're going to disagree on what the data say let's move on the tension escalated between the two guests leading Joe to step in multiple times Gary I I really continue to get the feeling that you do not understand human energetics um because that's not how it

works well no I'm just saying 10 calories stored in a fat tissue that's metabolic 10 calories I didn't say anything about how much you have to eat I'm not done okay no but you're insulting me you got to stop doing that dude you keep

acting like you think I'm an idiot all right are you done now are you done can we be clear that we're talking about are you done now can I just finish this no you can't you can't me without no can't have time to respond you you can respond

write down notes on what you want to respond to and after he's done you can talk but we're going to get a long discourse on something that's not the point we thank you okay the two diet experts found themselves in an ongoing stalemate

much like in the heated exchange between Joe Rogan and Matt Walsh which began when Walsh argued that gay marriage threatens the institution of traditional marriage but then why are you opposed to two gay people doing that well because because again it's it's it's not about

Choice, it's about what this institution, marriage is an institution, and what is it and what what purpose does it serve? Joe passionately argued that the bond of a gay marriage poses no threat to the sanctity of a heterosexual marriage, with Matt quickly firing back, "If marriage is

not what I'm saying it is, then what? Why do we even need it? What's the... I mean, you're saying it's a it's a man-made institution. We are making the institution meaningless, but it's not meaningless. It's very meaningful to the

people that have it. Subjective, symbolic, and it's about your own personal feelings. Isn't it though? Well, no, I I would say that it's not. It's well, if it's not subjective and it's not symbolic, it's it it codifies and protects and uh

gives a name to a a thing that actually exists, which is which are you know, man woman couples creating people, creating creating babies. When Walsh boldly declared that marriage's essence lies in a man and a woman creating offspring, Joe's immediate response was, "If marriage

is only for procreation and to bond a family together, what about people that are deeply in love that never want to have children? I I don't think it's it's not only procreation, but that is one of the fundamental definitional uh uh aspects

of it. Yet Rogan was significantly more wound up during an argument with political commentator Milo Yiannopoulos concerning Christianity's role in the modern world. "Everywhere that doesn't have a strong Christian heritage is up, a place with bad with bad morals. That's a

ridiculous statement that's a ridiculous statement everywhere that doesn't have Judeo-Christian values uh is a play. I think that yes I think I think it it should be perfectly reasonable and respectable thing to say our culture is better. I believe our culture is better

in world culture of Christians, other European and American culture which is based on Judeo-Christian values is better than other cultures. I think it's uncontroversial to say so, but what's what based on Judeo-Christian values about being a good person?

ultimately our our sense of right and wrong comes from the Bible. What it does, what comes from the Bible, ultimately our sense of right and wrong comes from the Bible. Our sense of right and wrong. I think I think you think there's the only way that a

person could have ethics and morals and treat each other well. Don't you think that people understand what's good and what's bad? Listen, if we're going to have a conversation we can't keep talking over each other like this when someone is trying to make a point about something

that's complex like this. If you're if you think that the only way for a person to have ethics or an understanding of each other or compassion for each other is to rely on ancient myths that are easily scientifically disproven, well that's what Christianity is. No I didn't

say that I said I said that the specific set of values that you have is influenced more than you would like to admit by your Judeo-Christian. It's influenced by there are things that I think all of us the conversation would

then shift to Milo's orientation as the two debated about its potential influence on his arguments being a gay man who I am how what I do but that is prohibited in the Bible yes but I I agree that it would be better if I didn't behave like this and if I

could be homosexual no and I won't have this what you're saying is who you are is is prohibited in the B you are because I don't think my sexuality is an important component it's a huge part of you you talk about it all the time it's a

massive part of what we've talked about on this show I think um it comes up anytime you want to make a funny point it comes up anytime you want to define your sexuality or your urges or decadence because I think it's you

however Joe Rogan's debate with Adam Conover was notably more tense sparked by Adam's views on transgender athletes in sports with uh trans athletes who are uh you know competing with the you know with their gender right that's uh that is a sporting world that I'm more

interested in that's my that's my point of view my point of view is that so if you're a woman and you're a natural woman and you don't take any extra hormones or male hormones you're not taking steroids or any sort of performance-enhancing drugs you're

doing your very best to compete and you're at the top of the heap but then someone comes along that was a man for 30 years and decides they're going to be a woman and this has happened and literally transitioned a few months ago and competes as a woman and destroys

records and dominates you in that sport that's and that's not competing on a level playing field is as much cheating as taking steroids when the other person doesn't or taking performance-enhancing drugs when the other person doesn't. Well, uh, uh, I disagree and and I've, what do you

disagree about? I've I've already, well, the my main point being the one that I already made right, that like I don't think that there is such a thing as a perfectly level playing field. I think we decide what kind of playing field we

want to have. Sure, but we do make the distinction where we don't allow men to compete in women's divisions and I think that that distinction may be breaking down a bit right and I think it may be time to break down that distinction a

little bit. So you think that Mal should be able to compete in the women's division of weightlifting? Uh, no, I don't necessarily um but but they can if they transition. Uh, well, first of all, uh, uh the there's there's a lot of stuff to

break down as the discussion intensified. Emotions ran high when they delved into the sensitive subject of transgender children. If you're shooting hormones into a child and you're affecting the child's development, you're saying that's not a choice. That's nonsense, of course

it's a choice. You're choosing to chemically change this child's body. Yet the discussion soon devolved into a bizarre debate regarding the existence of alpha males. Right, it's not, not scientific, but it is true that women are hardwired to be attracted to confident

athletic men I don't I I well I don't know if I agree with that um but uh really yeah but if you ask girls like what are you into and you say if you are you into tall muscular confident men who are also nice to you Jesus Christ

it's going to be off the charts it's going to be like most of them I'm you know I'm I'm really not sure that's the case but what unfolds when a guest addresses a serious issue while Joe reacts with laughter this situation

played out during The Joe Rogan Experience episode 1532 with Mike Tyson turning somewhat awkward after Joe mistook one of Mike's earnest statements for a joke I did that video and I was in bed for a week that was 30 seconds and I was in bed for

a week and it's not funny because it made me realize that this is this is this is big boy okay this big boy yeah that wasn't really cool but just as Tyson finished calling Joe out for his reaction yet another stretch of uncomfortable tension

ensued what does it mean um when fighting gets you gets you erected what does that mean it's a good question it's orgasmic sometimes but saying that it gets you orgasmic that's a strange thing to say well that's just what I wanted to

find out cuz you're really bright and I thought you would figure that no I'm being very serious no I know I I I know you're being serious but I mean no one will understand that other than you this ultimately led to further awkward silence listen Alexander the Great was

32 and he conquered the known world yeah in 10 years and so thinking about that as a as a young man absolutely and speaking of awkward silence few can match the awkwardness between Joe and Jordan Peterson which grew so intense that they both completely lost sight of their

original topic you know you can say well yeah I've got all these flaws but look at what I'm trying to do that's the real ground of self-respect well I missed the I'm off the track with the question the ground of self-respect

I can't remember what you asked me so we'll have to go to a different topic what what how did we get on this we were um you asked about the evolutionary basis of oh that was a long time ago I know it's a rabbit hole that

just doesn't disappear but where were we just now um remember where we were just now no sorry I'm distracted by something else that's happening right oh I know we were talking about men yes we were talking about men and what motivates them the room would become

similarly uncomfortable during a discussion with fungus expert Paul Stamets where Joe inadvertently took his questions too far what are what are the negative benefit or the negative effects of this this is an explosive uh uh area of conversation and that puts my life in danger so I I reserve the right not to

answer your question whoa I didn't expect that it puts your life in danger talking about Psilocybin mushrooms he's looking at me silently I will respectfully move on thank you

Joe Rogan Interviews Gone Wrong

Heavi

기후 변화와 환경주의에 대한 의견 차이

조 로건과 캔디스 오웬스가 환경에 대한 관심의 중요성에 대해 토론합니다.

로건은 기후 변화와 그 복잡성에 대한 오웬스의 이해에 의문을 제기합니다.

제이미 버논은 인간이 주도하는 지구 온난화에 대한 과학적 합의를 인용합니다.

로건은 기후 변화가 해안 도시에 미칠 수 있는 심각한 영향에 대해 설명합니다.

오웬스는 로건의 질문에도 불구하고 기후 변화에 대한 불신을 계속 유지합니다.

로건은 오웬스에게 이 주제에 대한 완전한 정보가 부족하다는 것을 인정하라는 메시지를 보냅니다.

스포츠와 복서 토미 퓨리에 대한 의견 차이

데이브 포트노이는 토미 퓨리의 복싱 정통성을 일축합니다.

포트노이는 토미 퓨리의 명성이 그의 가족 이름 때문이라고 말합니다.

로건은 포트노이의 주장에 반박하기 위해 토미 퓨리의 복싱 영상을 보여줬습니다.

로건과 포트노이 사이에 퓨리의 복싱 기술에 대한 열띤 토론이 이어집니다.

마리화나 합법화와 그 효과에 대한 의견 차이

스티븐 크라우더와 로건이 대마초 합법화가 교통 사망 사고에 미치는 영향에 대해 토론합니다.

로건은 크라우더의 태도를 비판하며 자주 끼어듭니다.

Rogan은 마리화나의 이점을 다른 건강 증진 관행과 비교합니다.

로건이 연구를 발표한 후 인신공격성 발언과 함께 열띤 토론이 벌어집니다.

로건은 크라우더의 웹사이트를 조롱하며 자신의 중요성을 강조합니다.

게스트와의 어색한 순간과 긴장감 넘치는 교류

로건은 의도치 않게 조 쉴링의 개인적인 트라우마를 무시합니다.

셰인 길리스가 어색할 수 있는 면접 상황에 대해 이야기합니다.

로건은 에디 브라보와 평지 지구 이론에 대해 논쟁을 벌입니다.

정치적 토론은 불쾌한 교환으로 이어집니다.

두 명의 다이어트 전문가가 영양에 대한 열띤 토론을 벌입니다.

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