유대인의 메시아 신앙: 두 메시아에 대한 설명

### 메시아 예언과 유대 전통에 대한 복잡한 논쟁
* 🔥 토론은 **유대인의 기독교 강제 개종과 랍비들이 신자들을 오도하고 있다는 발표자의 주장**에 대한 대립으로 시작됩니다.
* 🤔 연사는 창세기 49장 10절의 해석에 이의를 제기하며 **이 구절이 메시아를 명시적으로 언급하지 않았다고 주장**하고 이 구절이 **실로의 개념과 어떻게 관련되는지 명확히 설명**해 달라고 요구합니다.
* 📜 유대인 전통에는 두 명의 메시아가 존재한다는 점이 핵심적으로 제기됩니다: **유다 지파 출신의 메시아 벤 다윗과 에브라임 지파 출신의 메시아 벤 요셉**은 각각 메시아 시대를 여는 데 있어 뚜렷한 역할을 담당했습니다.
* 📖 연사는 **이사야 53장을 인용하여 메시아 벤 요셉과 관련된 고난**을 설명하지만, 전통적인 해석은 그를 직접적으로 그렇게 부르지 않을 수 있음을 강조합니다.
* 🔍 메시아에 대한 논의에서 자주 인용되는 **스가랴 12장 10절은 메시아를 명시적으로 언급하지 않고 오히려 하나님이 찔린 것**에 대해 말하고 있다는 주장으로 논쟁이 이어집니다.
* 🗣 연사는 유대교 텍스트에서 **메시아 벤 요셉의 선재성**을 강조하며 그가 이스라엘의 죄의 짐을 받아들임으로써 그를 **고난과 구속**과 연결시켰음을 암시합니다.
* 📚 이러한 해석의 복잡성은 특히 **메시아의 정체성과 역할에 관한 성서 예언에 대한 깊은 신학적 분열**과 서로 다른 이해를 드러냅니다.
* ⚖ 궁극적으로 이 논쟁은 **전통적인 유대교 신앙과 메시아 해석 사이의 긴장**을 강조하며, 양측 모두 성경 본문에 대한 이해를 옹호합니다.

요셉의 아들 메시아, 다윗의 아들 메시아는 유대 전통에서 각각 고유한 구원의 역할을 수행한 별개의 인물입니다.

I do run a teaching in Spanish to bring back the benan. The descendants of the Jews were forced to convert to your religion, to Christianity. Yeah, bring them to Satanism. Your rabbis are burning in hell, so okay. May God save them from your rabbis who are burning in hell. May he save you from your blasphemy. So okay, so I tell you, okay, so I tell you quick. Obviously, you're really angry. I can see that. But okay, that's okay. No, not as angry as you. You just said, listen, don't appeal to sympathy like a narcissist. You're the one who just barked and said to bring back the Jews that my ancestors forced them to become Christians. So don't play the victim like a narcissist. Get to the topic, okay? The topic over see is Jesus the Messiah. I will tell you, he, according to your prophecy, is, and your rabbis are liars. Let me tell you, let me tell you, okay. According to the Bible, you got Genesis 49, verse 10. You got Isaiah 11 on.

Wait, no, take one out of time. How do you know Genesis 49 is about the Messiah? He talks about Judah. How do you know it's about the Messiah? Didn't ask you about Judah. I know about Judah. Judah, right? Let me repeat it again. Pretend you're listening to the question. Come down. Be he breathe. I know you're scared. The demons are pricking you. Listen. Genesis 49:8-12 about Shiloh. I know it better than your rabbis. Talks about the scepter will not depart from Judah. But how do you know it's about Messiah? Every this interpretation biblically. Say it again. That's interpretation of the Bible. So I want you to be clear. You assumed your interpretation. You didn't prove it. 'Cause if I read Genesis 49:8-12, it doesn't say son of David or Messiah. Correct those words. Okay, no. Admit it first. Yes, that is coming. That is referring to Messiah about Shiloh. The one's gonna be sent. Shiloh. Wait, wait. Who? Who Shiloh?

Okay, Sheilo, I know, but for the record, I want you to be slow. I'll barbecue you slowly. I know you're argu, just be patient. I'll let you see what answer first. Admit Genesis 49:8 to 12. Shiloh, you're assuming it's Messiah. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but I want people to know you've already assumed your tradition. You're reading into it. So, can you at least be honest? The text itself, just the wording, no reference to Messiah or son of David, correct? Talks about the descendency of the Messi, even answer the question, correct? Judah, right? Correct? Is the promise of God to Judah that from here will come the septer? No, okay, but that can be David. But you're not answering me. Could you? Okay, let's start with David. Let's start with D. Let's start. Let's go here. Can you tell us about the rabbis and the two messiah, Messiah Ben Joseph? What happens to him? Fantastic. Thank you for telling me this. Fantas. Tell me what.

glory to God. Okay, glory to Jesus, the God of the rabbis who messiah's. Okay, so let me tell you because you just opened a different door that I wasn't. Can you answer the question? I will answer. Take it easy. Okay, mashia Ben David, Mah Joseph. I will tell you gota be m for you. Come on, mashia David comes from Judah, David, and shomo. That's mashia B David, and it's the L that's in second chronicles. Rabf is the one that comes from ephra, which is a parable, which is a parable. I'm you in a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What prophecy speaks mhia Ben David, Ben ysep? Can you tell me? There is no prophecy according to your rabbis. Yes, no, no. Let me listen. You learn list. Stop barking, girl. What prophecy did rash? What propy? Wait, wait. What prophecy did Rashi use in reference to mashia Ben ysf? Okay, can I talk or you want to talk? Can you answer or you're going to

manifest I want to, but I that's not a quick answer. It's elate answer stopping go ahead Isaiah 53 Bobby habbi you gotta be nice. You're supposed to be. You're supposed to have the like Rabb get to the point mashia B ysep comes from a parable from the talmud, but it's a parable that talks about the Messiah Ben yoseph that comes from the tribe of Ephraim. So it has nothing and obiously they quote Isaiah 53 San 98 read the screen for me the Hebrew of Rashia read it read it right here am a man who Mourns for his own son. Yeah read the Hebrew read the Hebrew okay amand don't let me just tell you amand read the Hebrew body. You're wasting my time can you read the Hebrew Habibi Habibi you're wasting my time if you don't let me answer Habibi let me talk you don't read the Hebrew no I'm not going to read it for

you because you're not listening. Okay, I'm going to give you 10 seconds to read the Hebrew then English, and I'm going to get you out of it because you're barking. Can you read? Okay, do you're. I won't read it in Hebrew for you. Read it. I won't. Why are you so angry? You're so angry. Guys, shut up. The guy starts saying, I want to bring back. You can't bring that. You couldn't bring back a cockroach to your hellhole if your life depended on it. According to rabbis, how many Messiah will there be? Uh, one. No, see, they lie to you. There are two. There are two messiahs in the toet. Two Messiah. Yes, Messiah son of Joseph who will be killed in battle, and Messiah son of David who will resurrect him. Jewish tradition speaks of two redeemers, each one called messiah. Both are involved in ushering in the Messianic era. How many Messiahs? Two. They are mhia Ben David and mhia Ben ysep. The term mashia unqualified always refers to

mhia David, mashia, descendant of David of the tribe of Judah. He is in, he is the actual final Redeemer who shall rule in the Messianic age. All that was said in our text relates to him. Now scroll down mhia Ben ysep, mhia thec of Joseph of the tribe of Ephraim, son of Joseph, is also referred to as mashia benim mashia. He will come first before the final Redeemer and later will serve as his vice Roy. The essential task of mashia Ben ysf is to act as a precursor to mhia Ben David, he's G to come and prepare people for the of David. He will prepare the world for the coming of the final Redeemer. Different sources attribute to him different functions, some even charging him with tasks traditionally associated with mhia, meaning this Messiah son of Joseph. He does things that Messiah son of David does, such as the Gathering of the Exiles, the rebuilding of the B Mikes. He will rebuild the Temple, so the rabbis on the

other hand saw these references and concluded H. So there will be a reigning Messiah, that's the Davidic Messiah. But then the Messiah who suffers like Joseph did, but then will be exalted like Joseph was, then he's the Messiah son of Joseph, right? But there's nothing explicit. In other words, if you go to Zechariah 12:10, which the rabbis interpreted as referring to the Messiah in Zechariah 12:10, when it says, They shall look on me whom they pierced and mourn for him as one mourns for the death of an only son, right? They say, Oh, that's Messiah son of Joseph who'll be killed in the war of Gog and Magog, whom David, the son of David, the Messiah son of David, will resurrect. But it doesn't say Messiah son of Joseph. In fact, it doesn't even say Messiah. It says, They shall look on me whom they pierced. That's God speaking. The Jews will mourn over the fact that they pierced me, their God.

Messiah. The word messiah's not there, neither Messiah son of Joseph or Messiah son of David. It's God whom they're going to physically thrust through, right, and pierce to death, or pierce at least, right? Okay, that's what it says. But the rabbis read that saying, Oh, this one will be pierced through, slain in battle. That's Messiah son of Joseph, and Messiah son of David will resurrect him. Now, another name for messiah son of Joseph is Ephraim. He's called Ephra. Why? Because Ephra is Joseph's son. In the PTI, they're Messiah son of Joseph called Ephraim preexist. I did a session on this. There, we're told that the Messiah son of Joseph, Ephraim, is there with God from the days of creation. He's been there with God, and God tells him, Are you willing to bear the yoke of the sins of Israel so that they can be redeemed and they can be forgiven? And he accepts it. So, there you have in the P, which I quote, one of

my articles this session on it. The acknowledgement of the pre-existence of Messiah son of Joseph. It's in a Jewish source. It's there. I quote it in my article articles, and I did a session on it, right? And he's saying, saying, I will take this yoke, and it even quotes Psalm 22 and applies it to Messiah son of Joseph suffering vicariously for the sins of Israel.

Jewish Rabbi MALFUNCTIONS In Debate On Jesus Being The Messiah VS Sam Shamoun

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화자는 스페인어로 가르치고 있으며 유대인이 기독교로 강제 개종하는 것에 대해 분노를 표출하고 있습니다.

그들은 성경, 특히 창세기 49:8-12이 메시아를 언급하고 있다고 주장하며 이 구절의 해석에 이의를 제기합니다.

양측이 서로를 비난하고 자신의 신념을 옹호하면서 대화는 대립적인 양상을 띠게 됩니다.

대화는 창세기 49:8-12의 해석과 메시아에 대한 연관성을 중심으로 진행됩니다.

특히 유다와 홀에 대한 하나님의 약속과 관련하여 전통의 가정과 본문의 표현에 대한 논쟁이 있습니다.

또한 랍비 사상에서 두 명의 메시아, 즉 마시아 벤 요셉과 마시아 벤 다윗에 대해 논의하며, 랍비들에 따르면 마시아 벤 요셉에 대한 구체적인 예언의 부재에 대해서도 논의합니다.

유대 전통에서 두 메시아의 개념

유대인의 전통은 두 명의 메시아가 존재한다고 가르칩니다: 요셉의 아들 메시아는 전투에서 죽고, 다윗의 아들 메시아는 그를 부활시킵니다.

탈무드의 비유는 에브라임 지파 출신의 메시아 벤 요셉의 역할을 강조합니다.

두 메시아 모두 메시아 시대를 여는 데 관여하며, '마시아'라는 용어는 이들을 지칭하는 자격이 없는 용어입니다.

유대인 전통에서 메시아 인물의 역할

유다 지파 출신의 미아 벤 다윗은 메시아 시대에 통치할 마지막 구속주입니다.

에브라임 지파 출신의 미아 벤 요셉은 미아 벤 다윗의 선구자로서 먼저 등장하고 나중에 그의 부왕 역할을 하게 됩니다.

두 메시아적 인물은 유배자들을 모으고 성전을 재건하는 등 비슷한 임무와 연관되어 있으며, 랍비들은 메시아 예언에서 이들의 역할을 상호 보완적인 것으로 해석합니다.

"메시아"라는 용어는 명시적으로 언급되어 있지 않지만 찔려 죽임을 당한 인물이라는 개념은 요셉의 아들 메시아, 다윗의 아들 메시아와 연관되어 있습니다.

에브라임이라고도 불리는 요셉의 아들 메시아는 창조 때부터 하나님과 함께 존재했으며 이스라엘의 죄의 멍에를 지고 그들의 구원을 위해 받아들였다고 믿어집니다.

유대인 자료에서는 요셉의 아들 메시아의 선재성을 인정하고 시편 22편을 이스라엘의 죄를 대신하여 고난을 받으신 메시아에 적용합니다.