GOOD MORNING. IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT AI, THE FUTURE OF IT, WHERE WE ARE, THE CHALLENGES OF ITS SAFETY, AND SO MUCH MORE. AND WE'RE HERE WITH DEMONSTRABLY ONE OF THE OJI'S OF THE AI WORLD. WILL STOP SELLING AND IS THE CEO NOW OF MICROSOFT AI. HE SPENT WITH A DECADE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS INDUSTRY BEFORE WE EVEN HAD GOTTEN TO FEEL IT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. NOW HE CO-FOUNDED AT DEEPMIND BACK IN 2010. THAT WAS LATER ACQUIRED BY GOOGLE IN 2022. HE CO-FOUNDED A COMPANY CALLED INFLECTION. HE DID THAT WITH REID HOFFMAN AND THEN RECENTLY MOVED THAT COMPANY INSIDE OF MICROSOFT AND IS NOW THE HEAD OF MICROSOFT'S AI EFFORTS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE. AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, HIS PERSONAL STORY. IF I COULD,
JUST FOR A SECOND, HIS DAD WAS A TAXI DRIVER. HIS MOTHER WAS A
NURSE. AND TO SEE HIM NOW IS QUITE A THING. SO THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. REALLY IS SOMETHING VERY, VERY SPECIAL. THANK YOU.
THANKS A LOT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GOOD,
THE BAD, THE UGLY, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. WHERE
WE'RE GOING. BUT LET'S JUST START VERY BASICALLY. IF I
WAS A BASEBALL GAME, WHAT INNING ARE WE IN? WHERE
ARE WE IN THIS? BECAUSE I THINK SO MANY OF US HAVE PLAYED WITH
CHAT, GPT, AND OTHER KINDS OF AI PRODUCTS. WE ALL THINK WE KNOW
WHAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT. WE ALL KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT
THE FUTURE OF OUR LIFE IS GOING.

TO BE WITH AI. IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO
SORT OF LEVEL SET FOR US WHERE WE REALLY ARE. >> BECAUSE I THINK THE
CHALLENGE IS THAT AS HUMANS WE RIDDLED WITH BIASES OF ALL
KINDS. SO WE LOOK BACK AND IT FEELS INCREMENTAL. BUT IN THE
MOMENT, IT REALLY IS FAR MORE EXPONENTIAL THAN PEOPLE
REALIZE. I MEAN, IT 2 YEARS AGO, NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT
AGENTS. YOU KNOW, AI SYSTEMS THAT CAN TAKE ACTIONS. A NEW
WORLD TODAY. EVERYBODY IS EXCITED. THAT OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF YEARS, AGENTS GOING TO BE EVERY WAY DOING THINGS ON
OUR BEHALF. ORGANIZING OUR LIVES. PRIORITIZING AND
PLANNING. 4 YEARS AGO. NOBODY WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT
LANGUAGE MODELS. TODAY.

EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT LANGUAGE MODELS. SO IT'S JUST A VERY SURREAL EXPERIENCE TO BE INVENTING TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH AT ONE MOMENT FEEL IMPOSSIBLE. AND THEN JUST A FEW YEARS LATER AND NOW, YOU KNOW, COMING TO PASS. IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT, IT IS NOW POSSIBLE TO ASK ANY ONE OF THESE CHATBOTS ANY QUESTION THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE AND GET IN ON. SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH AS GOOD AS ANYONE OF US COULD. AUNTS ARE IN THIS ROOM ON AVERAGE. AND IT'S EASY TO TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. BUT THAT IS LIKE YEARS AND YEARS OF VERY SLOWLY AND STEADILY ADDING CAPABILITY FOR SUCH AN EXPERIMENT ING TESTING THINGS OUT. AND THEN IN SOME IT REALLY, I THINK CREATES QUITE A

MAGICAL EXPERIENCE. IF I WERE TO LOOK OUT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE RIGHT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS MOMENT. >> WE'VE ALL PLAYED WITH WITH WITH CHAT GPT, BUT OTHERS TALK ABOUT G I THIS THIS SORT OF A WORLD WHERE ARTIFICIAL, GENERALIZED, INTELLIGENT INTELLIGENCE CAN EFFECTIVELY DO EVERYTHING, ANYTHING, AND EVERYTHING. THAT IS SORT OF THE THING THAT IS BOTH THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO THE THING THAT I THINK PEOPLE FEAR IN MANY WAYS HE'S AT ON YOUR DECADE-LONG ROAD MAP. >> I JUST NOT QUITE SURE THAT'S A SORT OF HELPFUL FRAMING, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET FIXATED ON SUPER INTELLIGENCE THIS MOMENT WHEN AN AI CAN DO EVERY SINGLE TOSS THAT A HUMAN CAN DO BETTER.

THAN HUMANS. AND IF YOU REALLY PUSH ME, I HAVE TO SAY, THEORETICALLY, IT IS POSSIBLE, AND WE SHOULD TAKE THE SAFETY RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SUPER SERIOUSLY. I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THE SAFETY AND ETHICS OF H I ALMOST 15 YEARS. AND SO I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT IT A LOT. BUT PEOPLE TEND TO LUNGE AT IT AS THOUGH IT IS A INEVITABLE BE DESIRABLE AND SEE COMING TOMORROW. I JUST THINK NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS, THE TRUE, IT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED TECHNOLOGY. AND AS A SPECIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A NEW KIND OF GLOBAL GOVERNANCE MECHANISMS. SO THAT TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO ALWAYS SOUTH AUSTIN, MAKE A SMALL, HEALTHY

AND HAPPY OR MAKE US MORE
EFFICIENT. IN ADD VALUE IN THE WELL, BECAUSE THERE IS A RISK
THAT THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE DEVELOP THIS CENTURY DO END UP
CAUSING MORE HARM THAN GOOD. AND THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF
CUTS OF PROGRESS. WE HAVE TO FACE THAT REALITY, RIGHT?
THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE GOING TO SPREAD FAR AND WIDE. EVERYBODY
IS GOING TO HAVE TO CAPACITY TO INFLUENCE PEOPLE AT SCALES
PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED TO BE COMPLETELY UNIMAGINABLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE A QUESTION OF
GOVERNMENT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. >> WHICH IS THAT LEADERS IN
THIS INDUSTRY, INCLUDING YOURSELF AND SAM MOMENT IS SO
MANY OTHERS HAVE GONE TO CAPITOL HILL AND ELSEWHERE
AROUND THE WORLD. HE SAID,

PLEASE, WE MAY NEED NOT.
WE MAY NEED REGULATION. THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PROBLEMS POTENTIALLY WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT VERY FEW INDUSTRIES, TO THE CEOS GO TO THE REGULATORS, SAY, PLEASE REGULATE ME. IS THAT A SINCERE EFFORT, OR IS THAT A PROTECTIVE EFFORT TO SAY, LOOK, WE TOLD YOU THERE COULD BE PROBLEMS. WE KNEW YOU WERE NEVER GOING TO REGULATE US ANYWAY. SEE SOCIAL MEDIA. AND HERE WE ARE NOW. >> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS IS ALSO A FALSE FRAME. YOU KNOW, IS IT UP, YOU KNOW, A SINCERE EFFORT, OR IS IT ACTUALLY ABOUT REGULATORY CAPTURE? >> BECAUSE THEY GET UP. THERE WAS ACTUAL REGULATION. I HAVE

A FUNNY FEELING. WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHICH PIECES ARE REGULATED, HOW IT'S REGULATED. THERE BE A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THE SENATE MADE. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'M A SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BRIDGE WITH EUROPEAN TENDENCIES. BUT I DON'T FEAR REGULATION. >> IN THE WAY THAT SORT OF EVERYONE SEEMS TO BY DEFAULT THINK THE REGULATION IS EVIL HERE. I THINK THERE IS NO TECHNOLOGY IN HISTORY THAT HASN'T BEEN SUCCESSFULLY REGULATED ALL ABOUT JUST LOOK AT THE CAR AND WE'VE BEEN REGULATING CAUSE SINCE THE 20'S AND HAS CONSISTENTLY STEADILY MADE CARS BETTER. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE CAR ITSELF. IT'S THE STREETLIGHTS. IT'S THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. IT'S THE ZEBRA

CROSSINGS. IT'S THE CULTURE OF SAFETY AROUND DEVELOPING A CAUGHT DRIVING A CALL BE. SO THIS IS JUST A HEALTHY DIALOGUE THAT WE JUST NEED TO ENCOURAGE AND STOP FRAMING AS A KIND OF BLACK AND WHITE. IT'S I THE EVIL REGULATION OR IT CYNICALLY MINDED TO DRIVE REGULAR TREE CAPTURE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING. THE TECHNOLOGISTS AND ENTREPRENEURS AND CEOS OF COMPANIES LIKE MYSELF AND SAM, WHO I LOVE DEARLY AND THINK IS ALSO HE'S NOT CYNICAL. HE IS SINCERE. HE BELIEVES IT GENUINELY SO TO THE REST OF THEM. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST GREAT. WE SHOULD EMBRACE THAT. AND OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE DOWNSIDES TO IT, RIGHT? SO I'M NOT DENYING THAT.

YOU KNOW, PULL REGULATION CAN SLOW US DOWN, MAKE US LESS COMPETITIVE, CREATE CHALLENGES WITH OUR INTERNATIONAL AVERAGE TREES. YOU KNOW IT. AND IT CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T SLOW DOWN THE OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY, ALL THE STOPS. >> LET ME ASK A MORE COMPLICATED QUESTION. MICROSOFT HAS A DEEP, DEEP RELATIONSHIP WITH OPEN AI. THAT IS HOW MICROSOFT, AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW, IS PURSUING ITS AI AMBITIONS. I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER EFFORTS UNDERNEATH AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MINUTE. BUT YOU REFERENCE SAM ALTMAN WHO'S GOING TO BE HERE AND SPEAKING TOMORROW. THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF HEADLINES AND I WANT YOU TO HELP US MAKE SOME SENSE OF THEM WHERE WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE INSIDE

OPENAI WHO WORKED ON THEIR SAFETY TEAMS AT OPENAI, NOT JUST LEFT THE COMPANY BUT OPENLY OBJECTED TO THE APPROACH THAT THE COMPANY HAS TAKEN. I'M GOING TO READ YOU A QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON THE SAFE TEAMS LEFT. YOU SAID, THESE PROBLEMS ARE QUITE HARD TO GET RIGHT, AND I AM CONCERNED WE AREN'T ON A TRAJECTORY TO GET THEM RIGHT. IT IS VERY UNUSUAL TO SEE EMPLOYEES LEAVE AND SPEAK OUT THE WAY THEY HAVE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE OPENAI. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING? >> I'M PROUD THAT WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY AND WE OPERATE IN A TECH ECOSYSTEM WHERE THAT CAN BE WHISTLE-BLOWERS, AND THOSE WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE ENCOURAGED AND SUPPORTED. AND IF THOSE

PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE
MOMENT WHERE THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I CELEBRATE AND
SUPPORT THAT. I PERSONALLY HAVE ENORMOUS RESPECT FOR EVERYTHING
THE OPENAI HAS ACHIEVED. I THINK THEY CAN GO DOWN AS ONE
OF THE DEFINING TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES IN HISTORY, AND I
GENUINELY THINK THAT THEY'RE GRAPPLING IN A SINCERE WAY WITH
THE CHALLENGE OF PUSHING FORWARD WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. IS
POSSIBLE POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO PUTTING SAFETY ON THE TABLE
FRONT AND CENTER. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN LEADING THE SAFETY
RESEARCH AGENDA. LET'S JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. PUBLISHING
PAPERS, COMMITTING TO ACADEMIC ARCHIVES, ATTENDING THE
CONFERENCE, IS RAISING AWARENESS OF THESE ISSUES, OPEN SOURCING,
SAFETY, TOOLING AND

INFRASTRUCTURE TICKETS, NOW.
INSIDE THE ROOM, THOUGH, WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING THIS DEBATE TO THE EXTENT WORSE, AND WE'RE SEEING IT PLAY OUT. >> WHAT IS THE DEBATE OVER? IS IT ABOUT RESOURCES? HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING DEVOTED TOWARDS THE SAFETY ISSUE? IT'S ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGY AND PHILOSOPHY ABOUT HOW QUICKLY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND WHERE DOES MICROSOFT SIT IN THAT DISCUSSION? >> BUT I THINK SMART PEOPLE CAN SINCERELY DISAGREE ABOUT THE SAME OBSERVATIONS. SO, SOME INDIVIDUALS LOOK AT THE EXPONENTIAL TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON, AND THEY WILL ARGUE THAT FOR THE LAST 60 IS WE HAVE SEEN AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE MORE COMPUTE AND MORE DATA APPLIED TO THE SAME METHOD. SO, 10 TIMES

MORE COMPUTER THAN 10 TIMES
MORE DATA APPLIED EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IN FACT, FOR THE LAST
DECADE, AND EACH TIME YOU ADD 10 X MALL, YOU DO LIVE A VERY
MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN CAPABILITIES. THE MODELS
PRODUCE FEW LOOSE, THE NATION'S THEY CAN ABSORB MORE
INFORMATION, MORE FACTION INFORMATION. THEY CAN INTEGRATE
REAL-TIME INFORMATION, AND THEY'RE MORE OPEN TO STYLISTIC
CONTROL. SO YOU CAN TUNE THAT BEHAVIOR, BOTH FROM A PRODUCT
PERSPECTIVE AND FROM UP. SO TO THE PERSONALITY OF THE
MOBILE AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST SCAD ABOUT THIS ARGUE THAT
THEY CAN SEE A PASS OVER THE NEXT 3, 0, 4, 0, 5, ORDERS OF
MAGNITUDE. CALL IT 5 IS A E IS

WET THAT CAPABILITY. SHE ACTUALLY DOESN'T SLOW DOWN. ACTUALLY, IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER. THE COUNTER ARGUMENT TO THAT IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING OUT OF DATA. WE NEED TO FIND NEW SOURCES OF INFORMATION TO LEARN FROM. AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP GETTING BETTER. THAT COULD ASK THEM TO WRITE. WE'VE SEEN THAT MANY TIMES IN THE HISTORY OF TECHNOLOGY. SO I THINK IT'S A HEALTHY DEBATE TO HAVE. YOU MENTIONED THE WORD WHOSE NATION AND ANYONE WHO'S PLAYED. >> WITH ANY OF THESE PRODUCTS IS PROBABLY EXPERIENCED A MOMENT WHERE IT APPEARS THAT THE BOT HAS LOOSEN AID. ONE OF THINGS WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRIES, THEY SAY,

YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN'T REALLY
EXPLAIN WHY WE'VE SEEN IT, AND WE CAN'T REALLY EXPLAIN WHAT'S
GOING ON INSIDE THE BOX. CAN YOU? >> I THINK I SAW COM IN A WAY
THAT WOULD SATISFY YOU. BUT I ALSO CAN EXPLAIN WHY YOU CHOSE
TO WEAR A BLUE SHIRT THIS MORNING. I CAN EXPLAIN VERY
LITTLE ABOUT TO YOU. OR I OFF THE REQUIREMENT FOR EXPLANATION
IS, I THINK, AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OF A HUMAN BIAS. WHEN IOS YOU
TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAD SCRAMBLED EGGS FOR BREAKFAST
THIS MORNING, YOU WILL CREATE A FULLY IMAGINE AN EXPLANATION IN HINDSIGHT AND
DEPENDING ON YOUR MOOD AND THE CONTEXT THAT YOU'RE IN AND THE
OTHER LIKE ASSOCIATED METHOD, A TOUR OF THE EXPLANATION,
YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SAY IT

SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY. AND IT'S
STILL CLEAR THAT IT WAS ENTIRELY KOZEL. THERE IS SOME
BASIS IN REALITY FOR IT. BUT THIS ONE-TO-ONE MAPPING IS
A VERY HIGH FOR RATIONAL IMPOSITION ON THE WAY THAT WE
THINK IS HUMANS. IN FACT, WE JUST DON'T REALLY OPERATE
LIKE THAT. WE OPERATE, I THINK, FAR MORE BY ASSOCIATION. SHOULD WE WORRY ABOUT THAT?
BUT I MEAN, SHOULD WE WORRY? THE WEEK ONE CANNOT UNDERSTAND
OURSELVES TO ANOTHER, TO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE COMPUTER
GETS. YOU KNOW, THE MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT ALL OF THIS IS JUST
A BIG MATHEMATICAL PROBLEM, RIGHT TO PUSH TO SHOULD ALWAYS
EQUAL 4. IT'S NOT A BELIEF OR WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS
JUST CUTE OR RATHER SO THAT

THAT'S JUST NOT HOW. SO HUMAN REASONING AND CULTURE ACTUALLY WORKS. IN MY OPINION, WE HUMAN REASONING WORKS AS A RESULT OF BEHAVIORAL OBSERVATIONS. WHEN YOU CONSISTENTLY DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I GAIN TRUST. YOU BECOME MORE RELIABLE WHEN USED TO TELL ME THAT YOU ARE UNSURE ABOUT SOMETHING, AND THEN I LOOK BACK AND IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU WILL SUCCINT HE WAS A CORRECT ASSESSMENT OF THE OUTCOME. THAT UNCERTAINTY GIVES ME REASSURANCE, RIGHT? SO I LOVE THAN TO TRUST YOU AND INTERACT WITH YOU BY OBSERVATION. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW WE WILL OPERATE IN RELATION TO OUR MOTHERS, HOW WE PRODUCE CULTURE AND SOCIETY. AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL

TREAT THESE MODELS. IT'S, YOU
KNOW, THIS. THERE WAS A. THERE WAS AN EXPOSE COMPETITION OF
RADIOLOGISTS 3 MONTHS AGO. PANELS OF RADIOLOGISTS IN THIS
LIVE ENVIRONMENT. 10'S OF THE VERY BEST CONSULTANTS GOING
HEAD TO HEAD AGAINST THE MACHINE. AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S
LOTS OF SKEPTICISM. WHY IS THE MACHINE PRODUCING THIS CORRECT
CANCER DIAGNOSIS? WHY IS IT PRODUCING THIS CORRECT EYE
EXAMINATION AND IDENTIFYING THAT THIS IS WELCOME? WELL, YOU
KNOW, WE CAN SORT OF ALLUDE TO SOME OF THE TRAINING DATA THAT
IS USED TO TRAIN ON IT. BUT THE FACT IS IT'S DOING IT MORE
ACCURATELY, MORE RELIABLY DOWN THE HUMAN. I THINK THAT THAT
IMPAIR A COOL OBSERVATION OF

THE FACTS ARE WHAT WE SHOULD RELY ON TO BE ABLE TO TRUST THE SYSTEMS. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID JUST BEFORE THAT, WAS THE IDEA THAT THE AI MACHINES, THE TRAINING THAT THAT IDEA IS RUNNING OUT OF DATA TO CONSUME. AND WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION. I THINK IN A MOMENT WITH US, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF SYNTHETIC DATA THAT IS ACTUALLY DIGITAL DATA. STILL MOST REPRODUCED OFF OF DATA THAT DOESN'T EXIST. BUT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE DATA THAT DOES EXIST. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OFFICERS HERE AT THE ASPEN IDEAS FESTIVAL AND A NUMBER OF JOURNALISTS AS WELL. AND IT APPEARS THAT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN TRAINED ON OVER THE YEARS HAS COME FROM THE WEB AND THE

QUESTION AND AND SOME OF ITS. THE OPEN WEB AND SUMS NOT. AND WE'VE HEARD STORIES ABOUT HOW OPEN OPEN AI WAS TURNING A YOUTUBE VIDEOS INTO TRANSCRIPTS AND THEN TRAINING ON THE TRANSCRIPTS AND WHO IS SUPPOSED TO ONLY IP WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO GET VALUE FROM THAT. I P AND WHETHER TO PUT IT IN A VERY BLUNT TERMS WHETHER THE AI COMPANIES HAVE EFFECTIVELY STOLEN THE WORLD'S I P. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A VERY FAIR ARGUMENT. I THINK THAT WITH RESPECT TO CONTENT THAT IS ALREADY ON THE OPEN WEB, THE SOCIAL CONTRACT OF THAT CONTENT SINCE THE 90'S HAS BEEN IT IS FAY USE. ANYONE CAN COPY IT, RECREATE WITH IT REPRODUCED WITH IT. THAT HAS BEEN FREEWAY. IF YOU LIKE, THAT'S BEEN THE UNDERSTANDING. THERE'S A SEPARATE CATEGORY WHERE A

WEBSITE OR PUBLISH OR NEWS ORGANIZATION HAD EXPLICITLY SAID, DO NOT SCRAPE WILL CREW ME FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN INDEXING ME SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN FIND THAT CONTENT. BUT THAT'S THE GRAY AREA. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURTS. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A GRAY AREA? WELL, IF IF HAS SO FAR, SOME PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THAT INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW WHO WON, WHO HASN'T, BUT THAT'S GOOD TO GET LITIGATED AND THE U.S. RIGHT. DO YOU THINK THAT THE IP LAWS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? I COULD GO AS AN OFFER. I CAN GO WRITE A BOOK IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING MY BOOK. I COULD GO TO THE THE LIBRARY WHERE BY ALL.

40 OTHER BOOKS ON AMAZON.
I COULD READ THOSE BOOKS, PUT THEM IN MY BIOGRAPHY, AND
HOPEFULLY PRODUCE A BOOK. AND I WOULD THE AUTHORS OF THOSE 40
BOOKS, NOTHING MORE THAN WHATEVER IT COST ME TO BUY
THOSE PRICE, THE AND MAYBE THE LIBRARY BOTTOM WANTS AS WELL.
NOBODY EVER IMAGINED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A
MILLION BOOKS EVERY 10 SECONDS, RIGHT. AND WHAT THE ECONOMICS
OF THAT SHOULD BE, RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE
ECONOMICS OF INFORMATION. ARE ABOUT TO RADICALLY CHANGE
BECAUSE WE CAN REDUCE THE COST OF PRODUCTION OF KNOWLEDGE TO 0
MARGINAL COST. AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST OF A
VERY DIFFICULT THING FOR PEOPLE TO
ENSURE IT. BUT IN 15 OR 20

YEARS TIME, WE WILL BE PRODUCING NEW SCIENTIFIC CULTURAL KNOWLEDGE AT ALMOST 0 MARGINAL COST. IT WILL BE WIDELY OPEN SOURCE AND AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY. AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A TRUE INFLECTION POINT IN HISTORY OF A SPECIES, BECAUSE WHAT ALL WE COLLECTIVELY AS AN ORGANISM OF HUMANS, OTHER THAN A KNOWLEDGE AND INTELLECTUAL PRODUCTION ENGINE, WE PRODUCE KNOWLEDGE, OUR SCIENCE MAKES US BETTER. AND SO WHAT WE REALLY WANT IN THE WORLD, IN MY OPINION, ON NEW ENGINES THAT CAN TURBOCHARGE DISCOVERY AND INVENTION. >> OKAY. NOW LET'S GET THE TOPICAL GOING TO GET YOU ON THE COUCH. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I

THINK YOU ACTUALLY JUST RAISE
THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WHO ARE WE AND WHAT
ARE WE, AND WHAT ARE WE IF THIS IS 6 TO IS AS SUCCESSFUL
AS I THINK YOU WANT IT TO BE. WHAT IS OUR VALUE? I HAVE
CHILDREN WHO ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW, A JUNIOR HIGH RIGHT
NOW, LOU, IT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THEY
SUPPOSED TO STUDY, HOW. I THINK IT'S BEST TO THINK ABOUT
WRITING PAPERS. ARE THEY EVER GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO
WRITE A PAPER? SPEAK TO THAT? >> LOOK, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE
SEE, WHAT SHOULD MY KIDS STUDY? I SAY SPEND MORE TIME
DIGITALLY LEARNING FROM EVERYBODY ELSE AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF TEXTBOOK
BASED LEARNING IS STILL GOING

TO BE VALUABLE, AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAN DEEPLY PAY ATTENTION AND, YOU KNOW, READ FOR 2 HOURS AND THEN WRITE AN ESSAY FOR 2 HOURS. OF COURSE, AS VALUABLE. I THINK THE GENERALIST WHO CAN SPEAK MULTIPLE SOCIAL LANGUAGE IS WHO CAN ADAPT VERY QUICKLY. THAT AGILITY IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE SKILLS. OPEN MINDEDNESS AND NOT BEING JUDGMENTAL, FEARFUL OF WHAT'S COMING IN. EMBRACING THE TECHNOLOGY. BY THE WAY, YOUR KIDS NOT NOT YET. NOT YET. OKAY. HERE'S MY QUESTION FOR YOU FOR THE PARENTS IN THE ROOM. AND BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD EMBRACE THE STUFF. ONE OF THESE THAT I WORRY ABOUT IS AND I WONDER WHETHER YOU

THINK THERE SHOULD BE POLICIES.
WHETHER THE MICROSOFT IMPLEMENTED MORE APPLE AAPL. BY
THE WAY, JUST PUT APPLE INTELLIGENCE INTO THEIR PHONES.
NEW PHONES ON TO THE POOR PAGES. YOU CAN WRITE THE
PAPER FOR YOU. AND THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL AND
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WRITE THE PAPER. THEY'RE REALLY GOING
RIGHT? THE PAPER OR THEY'RE NOT GOING RIGHT. THE PAPER, WHAT
KINDS OF TOOLS OR RESTRICTIONS OR OTHER THINGS YOU THINK
SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE FOR STUDENTS WHEN ALONE ADULTS?
YEAH, LOOK, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE SLIGHTLY CAREFUL ABOUT. FEARING THE DOWNSIDE OF
EVERY TOOL. YOU KNOW, JUST AS WHEN CALCULATORS CAME IN, THERE
WAS A KIND OF THIS GOT REACTION.

ON EVERYONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO
SORT OF SOULFUL THE EQUATIONS INSTANTLY, AND IT'S GOING TO
MAKE US DAMA BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO DO MENTAL ARITHMETIC.
PARTLY, THAT'S TRUE. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT WORSE AT REMEMBERING
TELEPHONE NUMBERS SINCE I'VE HAD MY PHONE. RIGHT WHEN I WAS
YOUNG, I REMEMBERED PROBABLY 40 OR 50 NUMBERS. YOU
KNOW, SO I DEFINITELY A LOSING SOME SKILLS. MAYBE MY MAP
NAVIGATIONAL SKILLS ARE NOT QUITE AS GOOD NOW BECAUSE I
JUST GO TO GOOGLE MAPS OR APPLE MAPS STRAIGHTAWAY, RIGHT?
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SHIFTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.
BUT NET NET, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE REALLY EMBRACE THIS
TECHNOLOGY AND RESPOND

THE GOVERNMENT IN AN AGILE WAY,
SUPER IMPORTANT IS CLEAR. BUT SOME OF OUR KIDS WERE
GETTING PHONE ADDICTION. IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY WERE
GETTING SPENDING FAR TOO MUCH TIME AND SOCIAL MEDIA THAT IT
WAS MAKING THEM FEEL ANXIOUS AND FRUSTRATED. AND FRANKLY, IT
WAS PROBABLY OBVIOUS TO THOSE OF US IN TECHNOLOGY SOONER THAN
WE MADE A BIG FUSS ABOUT IT. RIGHT. SO WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO
DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REACTING WITH OUR INTERVENTION,
OUR INTERVENTIONS AND A GOVERNMENT AS FAST AS WE
CREATING THE TECHNOLOGY CAN ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION. THERE ARE
A NUMBER OF ENTREPRENEURS IN THIS ROOM, SOME IN THE DIGITAL
SPACE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET INTO. I KNOW THAT WE'RE
THINKING ABOUT IT.

WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM IN TERMS OF WHERE TO GO AND WHAT TO DO AND WHAT INDUSTRIES ARE PLACES? >> THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITY AND IN A WORLD IN WHICH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO WRITE ALL OF THESE APPS AND OTHER PROGRAMS FOR ME AT ANY MOMENT. YEAH, IF THERE IS NO NO DEFENSIVE MOAT AROUND A BUSINESS BECAUSE AI IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST DO IT FOR YOU, WOULD ANYBODY INVEST IN ANY WAY? >> I THINK THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THIS BIFURCATION WET, THE AT THE VERY LARGEST SCALES WITH THE GREATEST CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING MODELS, WHICH I WILL TRAIN THE IMPRESSIVE, BUT EQUALLY KNOWLEDGE SPREADS FOSSA THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN IN THE HISTORY

OF HUMANITY. AND SO THE OPEN SOURCE MODELS, WHICH 100% FREE WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE AS THEY WERE IN THE PRIVATE SPACE. YOU KNOW, JUST A MOMENT AGO. NOT THAT'S A VERY, VERY BIG DEAL, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY IS GOING TO CONTINUE. GPT 3 TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO TRAIN AND IS NOW AVAILABLE FREE AND OPEN SOURCE. YOU CAN OPERATE ON A SINGLE PHONE SUNDAY ON A LAPTOP GBT FOR THE SAME STORY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE RULE MATERIALS NECESSARY TO BE CREATIVE AND ENTREPRENEURIAL, CHEAPER AND MORE AVAILABLE THAN EVER BEFORE. OK, SO I KNOW YOU'RE AT ONE OF THE DOW, THE BIG GIANTS IN TECH. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW DO YOU THINK

HONESTLY, ABOUT THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO I BECAUSE ONE OF THINGS THAT'S PASSING, BUT I AT LEAST THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS, YOU NEED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF COMPUTE, WHICH MEANS YOU NEED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND IF THIS IS NOT STUFF THAT'S BEING BUILT IN A GARAGE ANYMORE. AND SO THE TRUE POWER HAS ACTUALLY GONE BACK TO MIKE OF YOU. YOU ENDED UP BACK AT MICROSOFT. THERE'S GOOGLE. AMAZON IS IS TRYING TO BUILD. AND I EVEN OPENAI WHICH WAS ON ITS OWN, DECIDED TO ULTIMATELY PARTNER WITH MICROSOFT. IS THIS A GOOD THING IS A BAD THING? LINA KHAN AND OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT IT. IT'S NOT THAT

THERE'S BEEN WHOLESALE MERGERS
OF THESE THINGS, BUT EVEN THE PARTNERSHIPS UNTO THEMSELVES. >> YEAH, THIS LOOK, IT MAKES ME
VERY ANXIOUS. THAT THE REALITY IS EVERY WAY YOU LOOK, WE SEE
BRAD PITT CONCENTRATIONS, WHETHER IT'S IN NEWS MEDIA AND
THE POWER OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE FINANCIAL TIMES, THE
ECONOMIST, THE GREAT NEWS ORGANIZATIONS, OR WHETHER IT'S
IN CITIES, THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER AROUND A FEW BIG
METROPOLITAN ELITE CITIES, WHETHER IT'S IN TECHNOLOGY
COMPANIES. AND THE PRACTICAL FACT IS THAT OVER TIME, POWER OF
COMPOUND, POWELL HAS A TENDENCY TO
ATTRACT MORE POWER, BECAUSE IT CAN GENERATE THE INTELLECTUAL
RESOURCES IN THE FINANCIAL

RESOURCES TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND OUT-COMPETE IN OPEN MARKETS ALL. ON THE ONE HAND, IT FEELS LIKE AN INCREDIBLY COMPETITIVE SITUATION BETWEEN MICROSOFT, META, GOOGLE, AND SO ON. YOU KNOW, IT CLEARLY IS ALSO TRUE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS THAT JUST PRECEDENT IN CORPORATE HISTORY. >> CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT I IMAGINE IS A FRIENDLY, OR IT COULD TURN INTO A FRIEND OF THE SITUATION WITH OPEN AI, WHICH IS YOU HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP NOW, BUT YOU GUYS ARE DEVELOPING YOUR OWN TECH AS WELL. YOUR YOUR OWN I IN FACT THEY HELP YOU GET TO THE LEAD. I WANT TO READ YOU SOMETHING. THIS IS SEMAPHORE I THOUGHT WAS ACTUALLY A FASCINATING ANALOGY. YOU KNOW THIS COOL. OKAY WITH THAT WITH THE TOUR DE

FRANCE COMING UP. HERE'S A BIKE ANALOGY THAT I THINK EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND. OPENAI MICROSOFT DURING A 2-PERSON BREAKAWAY FAR AHEAD FROM THE PELOTON BY WORKING TOGETHER. NOW THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO KEEP THE LEAD. IF EITHER GO SO LOW, THEY MAY FALL. BOTH BEHIND. BOTH COMPANIES HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THEIR FINISH LINE STRATEGY WHEN THEY WILL HAVE TO DITCH THE OTHER. YOU'RE ON THE BIKE AGAIN. I DON'T BUY THE METAPHOR THAT THERE IS A FINISH LINE. THIS IS ANOTHER FALSE FRAME. IS ACTUALLY VERY MUCH ALSO TRUE IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL RACE WITH CHINA. WE'RE GOING HEAD TO HEAD. IT'S 0 SUM. THAT WILL BE A FINISH LINE. WHEN WE CROSS THAT, WE WILL HAVE AN A GIANT IF WE GET.

IT 3 YEARS BEFORE THEM WILL BE
ABLE TO DESCEND. HOW BIG THIS IS. JUST STOP IT. WE HAVE TO
STOP FRAMING EVERYTHING IS AN ADVERSARIAL RACE LIKE IT IS.
TRUE THAT WE HAVE FEROCIOUS COMPETITION WITH THEM. THEY'RE
AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY. WE DON'T OWN OR CONTROL THEM.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS. AND YOU KNOW, SO THEY
DO THAT, HEIDI, THEIR OWN THING. BUT WE HAVE A DEEP
PARTNERSHIP, VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH SAM. HAVE HUGE RESPECT AND,
YOU KNOW, TRUST AND FAITH IN WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND THAT'S
HOW IT'S GOING TO ROLL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
YOU MENTIONED CHINA. >> SPEAK TO WHERE YOU THINK AND
I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THE FRAME, BUT I THINK PEOPLE WANT
AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT'S

GOING ON, WHICH IS TO SAY, WHERE ARE WE RELATIVE TO? WHERE ARE THEY? YEAH. >> WE APPROACHED THIS WITH THE DEFAULT ADVERSARIAL MINDSET, WHICH WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY GOOD FRIENDS IN DC AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, IS THAT THE FULL FRAME THAT IT CAN ONLY BE A NEW COLD WAR, THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL BE BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY. THEY WILL FEAR THAT WE FEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADVERSARIAL. SO THEY HAVE TO BE ADVERSARIAL AND THIS IS ONLY GOING TO ESCALATE AND WILL END IN CATASTROPHE. AND SO WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO COOPERATE, BE RESPECTFUL OF THEM WAS ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT SET OF VALUES.

AND FRANKLY, WHEN I LOOK OUT OVER THE NEXT CENTURY, I THINK THAT PEACE IS GOING TO BE A PRODUCT OF US IN THE WEST AND PARTICULARLY AMERICAN LEADING THE TIP OF THE SPEAR. THAT KNOWING HOW TO GRACEFULLY DEGRADE THE EMPIRE THAT WE HAVE MANAGED OVER THE PREVIOUS CENTURY, BECAUSE THIS IS A RISING POWER OF PHENOMENAL FALLS WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF VALUES FOR US. AND SO WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO COEXIST WITHOUT JUDGMENT WITHOUT GOING TO WAR WITH THEM UNNECESSARILY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE FOR BOTH OF US. YOU MAY DIFFER WITH MY NEXT FRAMING SONG, BUT I'M GONNA TRY GREAT. THERE IS A DEBATE IN THE INDUSTRY WHETHER YOU LIKE ABOUT

THIS IDEA OF OPEN SOURCE VERSUS
CLOSED SOURCE. I WANT TO CLOSE OR SAY A LOT OF THE THINGS
THAT ACTUALLY OPENAI YOU'RE DOING AT MICROSOFT. OPEN SOURCE
IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN SEE INSIDE OF IT.
AND RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD ARGUE THAT A META. THE OWNER,
FACEBOOK IS THE LEADER THERE WITH ITS LAMA PRODUCT. THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT BOTH MODELS. ELON MUSK THINKS
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE OPEN SOURCE. I DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF
PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT FEAR THAT ACTUALLY, IF YOU
ALLOW THE OPEN SOURCE TAP INTO THE WILD, THAT IT COULD BE
MISUSED AND THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ADVOCATES FOR CLOSE
SOURCE. YEAH, BECAUSE IT AGAIN OVERSEE OBJECT TO THE FRAMING.
YOU KNOW, SO.

WE AT MICROSOFT IN MY 4TH WEEK OPEN SOURCE, THE STRONGEST MODEL FOR ITS WEIGHT CLASS 5.3, THAT IS IN THE WILD HANDS DOWN. STILL, AS YOU CAN USE IT ON BALLS AND ON DESKTOP, THE BEST OPEN SOURCE MODEL. SO WE TOTALLY BELIEVE IN OPEN SOURCE AS WELL. AGAIN, IT'S A MISS FRAMING, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE IN CREATING VERY POWERFUL, VERY LARGE, VERY EXPENSIVE MODELS, WHICH WE MAY OPEN. SO SOME OF OVERTIME SYSTEM, THE WHERE AGAINST OPEN SOURCE TOOL, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MIXTURE OF APPROACHES. ALL OF THESE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS AND ANOTHER SMALLER MODELS AS WELL. BUT THE LARGE LINE WAS, MILES IN PARTICULAR, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, REQUIRE HUGE AMOUNT

OF COMPUTING COMPUTING POWER.
AND THAT ALSO MEANS THEY REQUIRE A TON OF ENERGY.
THERE ARE A WHOLE NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING HERE AT
THE ASPEN IDEAS FESTIVAL AROUND ENERGY USE AND CLIMATE AND THE
LIKE. AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT GIVING ALL THE
PLEDGES, FRANKLY, THAT TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES MADE EVEN
ONLY 2, 3, IN 4 YEARS AGO AROUND CLIMATE AND GETTING TO
TO 0 BY 2030 AND THE LIKE IT APPEARS THAT ON THIS
TRAJECTORY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD GO OUT THE WINDOW. >> NO. SO WHEN WITH MICROSOFT'S
ALREADY 100% RENEWABLE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR BY
TWENTY-THIRTY WILL BE FULLY NET-ZERO, WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU
KNOW, 100% SUSTAINABLE AND OUR

WATER BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
SO LOOK, WE'RE VERY COMMITTED TO KEEPING UP WITH THAT. AND THE
GOOD NEWS ABOUT NEW TO MOM IS THAT IT COMES WITH A NEW
OPPORTUNITY TO REINFORCE SUSTAINABILITY. WHERE'S ALL
SUPPLY, I THINK IS MUCH HARDER TO MOVE. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE
ACTUALLY IN A VERY GOOD PLACE ON ITS TRUE THAT IS GOING TO
UNPRECEDENTED BUDGET ON THE GRID. BECAUSE SCALE WISE, WE'RE
DEFINITELY CONSUMING FALL MORE ENERGY THAN THE GREAT HAS
PREVIOUSLY MANAGED. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT IS LONG
OVER DEW, A RADICAL UPLIFT, RIGHT? THESE ARE THE KINDS OF
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO BE MAKING IN OUR
COUNTRIES IN THE WEST FOR THE FUTURE OF, YOU KNOW, SOCIETY
SPENDING LESS ON WAR AND MORE

ON SPENDING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS UP LEVELING IOWA, OUR GRID SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE ALL OF THE NEW BATTERY SPENT BY SHRI CAPACITY. THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM LOCAL GENERATION IN YOUR HOMES AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND COSTS. >> DO YOU THINK YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN WASHINGTON? DO YOU THINK THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON, WHICH I THINK STRUGGLE TO EVEN UNDERSTAND SOCIAL MEDIA, UNDERSTAND THIS WEATHER COMES TO THE IMPLICATIONS OF AI, BUT ALSO THE ENERGY IMPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? YEAH, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT THE CONVERSATION IS SHIFTING NOW TOWARDS TO RENEWABLE ENERGY QUESTION. I THINK PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT WE CONSUMING VAST AMOUNTS OF ENERGY END, YOU KNOW THIS, THIS, THIS HAS TO SHIFT.

BUT IT NEEDS. THIS ISN'T GOING TO SHIFT JUST BECAUSE MICROSOFT BY 100% RENEWABLE, WHICH OF COURSE GOOGLE DOES AS WELL. AND THE OTHER COMPANIES HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED. THAT WAS SAYING A BIT OF A STANDARD, BUT IT NEEDS NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT TRANSITION. HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMPETITION WITH OTHERS AND THE IDEA THAT SOME IT IS POSSIBLE THAT ACTUALLY USE LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS. MAYBE YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS FRAMING COULD BECOME COMMODITIZED, WHICH IS TO SAY YOU'VE GOT ONE. GOOGLE HAS WON. APPLE'S NOW PARTNER WITH OPEN AI, BUT THEY'RE APPARENTLY GOING TO PARTNER WITH LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE. AMAZON, WHICH

OWNS A PIECE OF ANTHROPIC. YOU COULD ARGUE HAS ONE IN HIS
BUILDING. IT'S OWN WITH EVERYBODY HAVE WON. IF EVERYBODY HAVE
ONE, HOW HOW VALUABLE IS IT ANYWAY, THAT HAS KNOWLEDGE
PROLIFERATES. EVERYTHING ESSENTIALLY BECOMES
COMMODITIZED. AT DEVELOPMENT USED TO BE A SUPER UNIQUE,
HIGHLY SKILLED. SET OF THINGS TO A TINY
GROUP. NOW EVERYONE CAN SPIN UP AND UP INTO THE EARLY WEB
DEVELOPMENT. REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS LIKE A REAL THING. NOW YOU
CAN JUST SEE THE PLUG AND PLAY AND DRAG BUTTONS AROUND. AND YOU
NEED NO TECHNICAL SKILLS WHATSOEVER. OTHER THAN BEING
ABLE TO POINT A MOUSE TO BUILD A PRETTY DECENT WEBSITES. OVER
TIME AS THE KNOWLEDGE AND CAPABILITY PROLIFERATES, IT
DOES BECOME COMMODITIZED.

HOW DO YOU THINK ABOUT AI AND HOW FULLY INTEGRATED IN THIS COASTAL PRIVACY QUESTION. ALSO GOES, BY THE WAY THAN TO TRUST QUESTION SHOULD GET INTEGRATED INTO EVERYTHING, WHICH IS TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, THE EU, AS YOU KNOW, HAS ACCUSED MICROSOFT OF BREACHING ANTITRUST RULES. YOU SHOULD KNOW APPLE HAS DELAYED INTRODUCING ITS OWN AI FEATURES IN THE U BECAUSE OF THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT. AND I THINK THERE'S A REAL QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW CONNECTED ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS NEED TO BE, FRANKLY, BOTH TO WORK, BUT ALSO THERE FOR THEM WHAT THEY DO TO THE REST OF THE BUSINESS. YEAH, I MEAN, I I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO YOU LIKE THE FRONT? YES, FINALLY, HAHA.

FRICTION IS GOING TO BE OFF
FRIEND HERE. AND THAT IS A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A A
DIFFERENT REALITY. TO WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST, WHERE
EVERY, YOU KNOW, SECONDS THAT WE CAN GAIN IN PUTTING
TECHNOLOGY OUT INTO THE WORLD IS ALWAYS PRODUCING NET
BENEFIT. AND I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE
BECOMING SO POWERFUL, THEY WILL BE SO INTIMATE. THEY'LL BE SO
EVER-PRESENT. THAT THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE IT'S FINE TO TAKE
STOCK AND THINK. AND IF IT TAKES 6 MONTHS LONGER, 18 MONTHS
LONGER, WILL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. IT'S
IT'S IT'S TIME WELL SPENT. >> I WANT TO OPEN UP TO
QUESTIONS IN JUST A MOMENT.

BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA BEFORE WE DO OF THE I GIVE EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AI. THIS WAS SOMETHING YOU ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT AND WORKING ON WHEN IT CAME TO INFLECTION AND WHAT INFLECTION WAS ABOUT. YEAH, INFLECTION. HE'S HE'S HE'S A I REGIONAL PROJECT HAS BEEN ARE A REMARKABLE EMOTIONAL IQ OR DQ. YEAH, OPPONENT TO IT. AND THERE WERE SOME SURVEYS AND OTHER THINGS. IT SAID THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY WHEN THEY WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH IT WAS BETTER THAN HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH A HUMAN. MAYBE THIS GETS BACK TO SOME OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATIONS WE WERE HAVING BEFORE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SEEN ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THE MOVIE

HER. IS THAT REALISTIC? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR THE
LONGEST TIME IN SILICON VALLEY AND IN TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE BEEN
OBSESSED WITH FUNCTIONAL UTILITARIANISM. YOU KNOW, YOU
WANT TO EFFICIENTLY GET SOMEBODY INTO A NAP. SO THAT
PROBLEM HELP THEM TO BUY SOMETHING, BOOK SOMETHING AND
SOMETHING AND THEN GET THEM OUT. WE NOW HAVE A NEW KIND OF
DESIGN MATERIAL, A NEW CLAY, IF YOU LIKE, AS CREATIVES
DEVELOPED TO PRODUCE EXPERIENCES, WHICH SPEAK TO THE
OTHER SIDE OF OUR BRAINS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S AN AMAZING
OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNED WITH REAL INTENT TO BE KIND AND
RESPECTFUL AND EVEN-HANDED. AND YOU'RE RIGHT IN A BUNCH OF
THE STUDIES PEOPLE FOUND UP HIGH. THE AI THAT I DO
PREVIOUSLY WAS JUST VERY KIND

AND CARING. IT JUST AUST YOU
QUESTIONS. IT LISTENED. IT RESPONDED WITH ENTHUSIASM.
IT WAS SUPPORTIVE. A CHALLENGE TO OCCASIONALLY IT WAS ALWAYS
EVEN HANDED A NON-JUDGMENTAL. EVEN IF YOU CAME WITH A QUOTE,
UNQUOTE, YOU KNOW, JUDGMENT OR WITH THE SORT OF RACIST OR
DISCRIMINATE REVIEW. IF YOU, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU
ARE AFRAID OF NEW IMMIGRANTS ARRIVING IN YOUR AREA, TAKING
YOUR JOBS OR AFRAID OF YOUR CHILD MARRYING A BLACK PERSON,
OR, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T JUST SHUT YOU DOWN AND SAY THAT'S
LIKE YOU SHOULDN'T BE SAYING THAT. IT WOULDN'T ADD MORE
TOXICITY TO THE EQUATION.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY ENGAGE WITH
YOU AND TALK AND HELP YOU EXPLORE YOUR FEELINGS. WAS ALSO
BEING HYPE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE AND, YOU KNOW, TEACHING YOU IN
PROVIDING YOU WITH ACCESS TO INFORMATION IN REAL TIME ON THE
WEB. AND SO I THINK IT WAS A PROOF POINT THAT TECHNOLOGY IS
DESIGNED WITH INTENTIONALITY REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT
ALL POSSIBLE. NOW WITH THIS NEW, LET ME READ ONE
INTERESTING POINT, THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSIAL
TOPICS IN ALL OF US. >> MAY ULTIMATELY END UP
TALKING TO AN AI BOT ABOUT WHICH IS WHO IS THE THE GOD, IF
YOU WILL. THAT'S GOING TO TELL US WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE
HEARD ABOUT, BY THE WAY, FROM ELON MUSK WHO SAID THAT HE
BELIEVES THAT THERE SHOULD BE

MULTIPLE AI BOTS AND THERE SHOULD BE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A RACIST AI BOT, THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU FROM A FREE SPEECH PERSPECTIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. >> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK THE DEFAULT POSITION IS THAT IT SHOULD FACILITATE YOUR OWN THINKING AND EXPLORATION IN A NON-JUDGMENTAL WAY. NOW, THAT WILL BE BOUNDARIES. THAT BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO FACILITATE MORE EXTREME EXPERIENCES, THEN THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE. I'M NOT GONNA BUILD A PLATFORM OR PRODUCT THAT ENABLES YOU TO REINFORCE THOSE IDEAS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY HARMFUL TO SOCIETY MORE GENERALLY. THE QUESTION IS WHO

GETS TO DEFINE WHAT THAT BOUNDARY IS THAT HOME? AND I THINK YOU DON'T RAISE A GOOD POINT. WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT EXACTLY THAT QUESTION IN SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE REALLY WAS AN INDEPENDENT VOICE THAT SAID, WELL, THIS KIND OF CONSPIRACY THEORY IS LEGITIMATE AS A SOURCE OF ACTIVE PUBLIC INQUIRY AND DISCUSSION. BUT THIS KIND OF CONSPIRACY THEORY, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, IS OVER THE LINE AND WE SHOULD REMOVE IT. AND I I JUST THINK WE'VE HAD 10 TO 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE GOOD PROPOSALS FOR HOW SOCIETY MORE GENERALLY, NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE POLITICIANS WILL THE JOHN LIST. SO THE ELITES BUT COLLECTIVELY GETS TO INFLUENCE WHERE THAT BOUNDARY OF MODERATION IS. WE'RE ABOUT TO

SEE THAT BOUNDARY BE CONTESTED,
EVEN MORE ACUTELY AND DYNAMICALLY WITH THESE MODELS,
RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE LIKE THE
THAT IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION THAN WHEN WILL THE
SINGULARITY HAPPENED? OKAY. FINAL QUESTION FOR ME, AND THEN
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP. AND I KNOW THERE'S MICROPHONES IN THE
ROOM. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. THEY'RE
GOING TO WATCH AND GO TO THE WATCH PARTY ON THURSDAY NIGHT
OF THE DEBATES. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT POLITICS IN
THIS ELECTION. JUST PLAYED OUT FOR US. THE
ROLE OF AI. >> THE ELECTION OF 2024 AND
THEN PLAY OUT THE ROLE OF AI IN THE ELECTION OF 2028. YEAH. >> SO THE VIEW THAT WE'VE TAKEN
FOR MICROSOFT CO PILOT SO FAR.

HAS BEEN THAT'S HEY, ICE SHOULD
NOT PARTICIPATE IN ELECTIONEERING CAMPAIGNING,
EVEN IF THEY SUCCESSFULLY PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VIEW.
PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE WITH THAT VIEW. BUT WE'VE TAKEN A PRETTY
HARD LINE ON THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY ISN'T QUITE
YET GOOD ENOUGH TO ARTICULATE THAT BOUNDARY BETWEEN WHAT IS,
YOU KNOW, A FALSEHOOD AND WHAT IT'S TRUE IN REAL TIME, RIGHT?
AND THIS IS JUST TOO SENSITIVE FOR US TO PARTICIPATE. SO
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DOWNSIDE TO THAT BECAUSE THE AI
DOES ALSO PROVIDE QUITE BALANCE INFECTION INFORMATION MOST OF
THE TIME. BUT SOMETIMES IT GETS A CATASTROPHICALLY WRONG.
SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ADVOCATING

THAT I SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ELECTIONS AND DEMOCRACY IS SACROSANCT THROUGH ALL OF ITS FAULTS AND STRENGTHS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT HUMANS PARTICIPATE IN. THE I SHOULDN'T IN 2030, OR 2035. WE KINDA HAVE TO FACE THE REALITY THAT SOME PEOPLE FEEL SO ATTACHED TO THAT PERSONAL EYES THAT THEY WILL ADVOCATE FOR PERSON. HOOD, JUST AS THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ADVOCATE FOR PERSON AND FOR THE ANIMALS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IN KIND OF MORE EXTREME ANIMAL RIGHTS CASES. AND I I AGAIN, THIS IS A PERSONAL VIEW, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO DEBATE. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A HARD LINE ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO

KNOW WILL DEMOCRACY IS FOR HUMANS, AND OTHER KIND FORMS OF BEING SHOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. KT KNOW WE HAVE A PANEL AND 30 IN 2035. THEM ABOUT HUMANHOOD FOR FOR THE BUCS. >> WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF HANDS. WE'VE GOT NOT A LOT OF TIMES. WE'LL TRY TO GO AS FAST AS WE CAN. WHAT DO WE GO RIGHT OVER HERE? AND THEN WE'LL COME DOWN HERE, AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN MOVE AROUND AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN IT ABOUT. YEAH. >> THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TODAY ON VERY INTELLIGENT CONVERSATIONS HERE. I JUST WANT, MY NAME IS MONICA MAN, AND THE FORMER DEPUTY MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BOCA RATON, FLORIDA.

AND I'M ALSO AN OLD-SCHOOL TECHNOLOGIST. OK, DATE MYSELF, IBM, COBOL PROGRAMMERS. SO I WATCH TECHNOLOGY THROUGH THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPLICATIONS AND APPLICATIONS OF AI THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. CRYPTOCURRENCY HAS BEEN LIKE A BIG BUZZWORD. EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENCY, THIS AND THAT UNTIL SPF CONVICTION FRAUD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO NOW I FEEL LIKE EYES THE NEW WORD. WE'VE GOT A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIMES. YOU'VE GOT TO PUT A QUESTION MARK. WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS THAT I WILL BE COOL UNTIL THE NEXT BIG TECHNOLOGY REVOLUTION? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVE HEARD THE COMPARISONS.

AND I THINK THAT CRYPTOCURRENCY, IN MY OPINION,
DIDN'T REALLY DELIVER VALUE EVEN IN THE MOMENT.
AND I THINK THAT THE VALUE THAT THESE MODELS ALREADY DELIVERIES
KIND OF OBJECTIVELY TO TO GET A MICROPHONE RIGHT DOWN
HERE. >> IF YOU'D LIKE, THEY WON'T
BE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO EVERY QUESTIONS 20
SECONDS OR LESS, LITERALLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE WE'VE GOT TO
HAVE A LOT OF MONAHAN'S AND VERY LITTLE TIME AND LYNDA
RESNICK, WE EDUCATE 5,000 UNDERSERVED CHILDREN. >> AND I'M I'M GRAPPLING, YOU
KNOW, WE FORCED HIM BEHIND THEM FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. AND NOW
I'M BEGINNING TO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TEACH MORE ABOUT THE
HUMANITIES.

AND I JUST WONDERED HOW YOU FELT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT WAY, THEY CAN MAKE A CHOICE AND UNDERSTAND. IF WE LOOK AT THE GREAT SCHOLARS OF OUR HISTORY, LIKE THE ASPEN INSTITUTE, HE TEACHES US GREAT YESTERDAY. I'M I'M WITH YOU ON THAT FELT ABOUT THAT. >> I'M VERY MUCH WITH YOU ON THAT. I THINK ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK BACK IN HISTORY, THE GREATEST GOAL AS A VOICE BEEN AL MULTIDISCIPLINARY SCHOLARS AND IN THE PASS, THAT REALLY WASN'T THIS ACCUTE DISTINCTION BETWEEN STEM AND HUMANITIES. AGAIN, IT'S QUITE OF SIMPLISTIC ADVERSARIAL POSITION. I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN BOTH. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT MULTIDISCIPLINARY SKILLS SAW GOING TO BE THE, YOU KNOW,

THE ESSENCE OF THE FUTURE. >> MYRIAM SEVERE O C S I S
NONRESIDENT SENIOR ADVISER WANTED TO ASK YOU A LITTLE MORE
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MISINFORMATION AND
DISINFORMATION AND WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS
THOSE CONCERNS. >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK ON THE
DISINFORMATION FRONT, THERE ARE CLEARLY BAD ACTORS WHO, FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS, HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY TRYING TO POLLUTE THE
INFORMATION ECOSYSTEM. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR BIG
TECH PLATFORMS COULD DO A MORE AGGRESSIVE JOB OF WEEDING
THOSE OUT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO STRETCH TRENT
THIS LINE FOR NOT SORT OF DAMAGING, YOU KNOW, THE THE
FREE SPEECH THAT WE VALUE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS
GOING TO BE A CONSTANT

WHAC-A-MOLE GAME, ESPECIALLY AS
THE COST OF PRODUCTION OF THAT. THIS INFORMATION GOES DOWN AND
THE EASE WITH WHICH LESS CAPABLE ACT IS LOOKING TO BE
ABLE TO PRODUCE VAST AMOUNTS OF THAT CONTENT. AT THE SAME TIME,
HAVE FAITH IN HUMANITY WERE INCREDIBLY RESILIENT AND
ADAPTIVE. AND YOU AS WE SOAR IN THE INDIAN ELECTION WITH THE
SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION, DEEPFAKES. THE PEOPLE THAT THAT
REAL QUICK AND THEY CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SKEPTICAL
AND THAT IF IT MAKES US A LITTLE MORE INQUISITIVE AND
QUESTIONING AND ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
THING. >> GOOD QUESTION OVER HERE.
THANK YOU. AGAIN, I GO BACK TO CHINA. I FEEL YA. NATIONAL SECURITY IS
DRIVING A POLICY

TECHNOLOGY AND CLEARLY WHAT POINT A POTENTIALLY NO RETURN WITH THAT RESULTING TO DEVELOP INTO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES STANDARDS. WHAT ARE WE THERE IN YOUR OPINION? >> NO, I TOOK A I THINK, FOR MIGHT TALK ABOUT COOPERATION. I'M ALSO VERY PRAGMATIC ABOUT THE BALKANIZATION, WHICH IS ALREADY TAKING PLACE. THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPORT CONTROLS NOW HAVE ESSENTIALLY FORCE CHINA TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN CHIP, WHICH THEY WON'T NECESSARILY ON A PASS TO DO. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SMART PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ABOUT THE SAME FACTS WHEN WE TOOK THE VIEW. I MEAN, UDC TOOK THE VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEPARATE AND THAT'S THE PASTA WE NOW ON AND THAT BUILDING THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY ECOSYSTEM

AND THERE, SPREADING THAT AROUND
THE WORLD. WE SHOULD REALLY PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, MUCH AS WE'RE
OBSESSED OVER THE QUESTION OF THE MIDDLE EAST. AND THAT, YOU
KNOW, IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. BUT LET'S NOT
NEGLECT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, DIGITIZATION IS A NEW
KIND OF, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SHAPING OF VALUES IN
AFRICA. AND THE PROVISION OF SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS AND
OPERATING SYSTEMS ARE READY GOING TO SHAPE THE NEXT FEW
DECADES IN A MUCH MORE PROFOUND WAY THAN BOOTS ON THE GROUND. >> OK, THAT'S GOING MAKE A
PHONY IN THE CHEAP SEATS. ARE THE IMPORTANT SEATS ALL THE WAY
IN THE BACK? I THINK I THINK I SEE A HAND IN THE ABSOLUTE BACK
ROW. AND JUST FOR SITTING IN THE BACK ROW. WE'RE GOING GIVE YOU
A QUESTION.

MAKE IT QUICK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ABOUT LITERALLY A MINUTE. >> HELLO, SUMMER. THEY COME TO US AND US AND I'M AN EDUCATOR IN NEW JERSEY FOR 8 YEARS. SHOUT OUT TO MY STUDENTS. SHE'S RIGHT HERE. SO I'VE BEEN ARGUING A LOT WITH A LOT OLDER TEACHERS FOR USING AI BECAUSE I'M A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR IT. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE SPECIFIC TEACHERS AND HOW DO YOU THINK TEACHERS CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE? I KNOW YOU SPOKE BRIEFLY ABOUT STUDENTS, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THE EDUCATOR'S PERSPECTIVE. >> YEAH, GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK SKIING AI TO PRODUCE A LESSON PLANS AS SORT OF THE FIRST ONE

INTRODUCTION. BUT PERFORMING ALONGSIDE AI. IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING NEW DIRECTION TO TAKE. LIKE, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE FOR A GREAT TEACHER OR EDUCATOR TO HAVE A PROFOUND CONVERSATION WITH AN AI THAT IS LIVE IN FRONT OF THEIR AUDIENCE AND THEN OCCASIONALLY ENGAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT STUDENTS TO GET INVOLVED? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE REAL-TIME VOICE-BASED INTERFACES THAT ALLOW FULL DYNAMIC INTERRUPT. AND IT FEELS LIKE JUST TALKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I AM RIGHT NOW WITHOUT INJURY. IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE. I THINK THAT LIKE LEANING INTO THAT, SHOWING THE BEAUTY OF THAT, AND BEING CREATIVE WITH IT IS REALLY THE FUTURE.

FOLKS IT TO BOTH. THANK YOU AND ALSO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF TIME. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FABULOUS QUESTIONS. BUT PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING THIS GENTLEMAN FOR A FABULOUS CONVERSATION. ON THE HUNT. THANK YOU, BUDDY.

CEO of Microsoft AI speaks about the future of artificial intelligence at Aspen Ideas Festival

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