After roasting the sesame seeds, it will be true and what will you do? Analyze it and what are you going to do with it? If you say it's fake, it's fake. If you say it's real, it's real. People who don't know how to analyze should analyze it, and people who know how to analyze should analyze it. Performers, as soon as they open their eyes to their dreams, the first sound is Ah, almost blinking their eyes. They almost got fooled, thinking it was real. It's not a real dog, it's a fake dog. They almost got fooled. Oh, take it out and cut it off right away. You shouldn't add anything after that. Sometimes people need to form human relationships. If they like each other, they should like each other, and if they don't fit well, they should break up. Why did humans meet to help each other? If they are not helpful to each other, they should be grateful for the help they have received so far and just live on, right? But what is this persistent thing that's coming out these days? The crispy rice crackers that are being made these days.

You need to be very careful about this. When you get angry, you should think, Oh, I got angry, and it should end there. You have to be able to get over this anger. You know, it means you are still not in your right mind. On the other hand, Oh, I got angry again. As a practitioner, you should hate one who hates others and hate yourself. You shouldn't hate others for hating yourself or blame others for blaming yourself. You just need to recognize that you got angry. Oh, I made a mistake. If you know you made a mistake, you should correct it. Oh, I made a mistake. It should end there. The back should be clean. If you fall, what should you do? Oh, I fell. Just get up. But if you fall while riding a bike, what is this? Does the bike know this? The person who kicks the bike with their foot is the one who rides it, not others.

You should not ride this, this is a person who magnifies themselves again. If you fall, what should you do? Just get up, if you get up and try again, like that, dreaming while wandering in a dream, when you open your eyes wide, it's a dream, oh, it's a dream. Like that, why do I see such a false thing twice? This question becomes another question as it is. What is the meaning of a dream? This kind of thing has no meaning, it's a false thing, so how can it have a meaning? Why do I see such a false thing? This kind of thing, we perceive with our eyes, listen with our ears, smell with our nose, taste with our tongue, touch with our hands, and roll the thoughts in our minds back and forth, and then what? We discover some kind of law, right? When I see something, I see it with my eyes and think, Oh, that's how it looks, I hear with my ears and think, Oh, that's how it sounds, I touch with my hands.

Touching and feeling, there are ways like this, but it depends on the personality, right? Whether it rains or not, it doesn't matter. Even if you just listen to the sound, it's not about what the sound is, right? So, what is it then? Our consciousness is about following that rule, that principle. We call the mechanism in our body that senses it Ivy Sensor, and we call the object Color, Taste, Smell Law. When you see and know with your eyes, it's called Visual Sensation, and when you hear and know with your ears, it's called Auditory Sensation. Is there anything else besides this? However, by doing this, the information that has been recognized becomes like something recorded on a tape. Just like how information is stored in a computer, it is all stored inside our brain, nothing is missed, everything is stored without omission. Just like how information is stored in a computer, it is all stored inside our brain, nothing is missed, everything is stored without omission. Nowadays, computers are not made like that, right? In that way, everything is stored, everything is stored.

The storage should be revealed outwardly. It needs to come out, appear on the screen for us to know. If it remains stored, we can't know if it's there or not. If it's not there, if you look at the disk, you won't know what's inside. If you pick it up and tap on it, how about appearing on the screen? You know what's inside. That's what it means. It's like that storage, like a floppy disk. It contains everything, including my thoughts, my feelings, everything. It's an inexhaustible thing. It's all there, but when it appears on the computer screen, we know what's inside. What comes up again is what? It's the world of consciousness we talk about. What we know is consciousness. Do you understand? The world of consciousness. Eyes, ears, nose, this is where we receive information from the outside world in real-time. From the outside, directly like this, your face comes into my eyes, and I...

You know, there are records, right? Even though we may not be aware of it, when information contained within this comes to light through consciousness, even if we close our eyes, how does your face appear so clearly, right? So, in this way, by reviving this, it's like when a broadcast is directly aired from a broadcasting station, it comes out as a recording on TV, right? Even if you insert the video that was recorded, the same thing comes out. So, when we watch the video, whether we are looking at that screen from a recording or a live broadcast, we don't know, right? So, what was hidden emerges into the world of consciousness, into the screen of consciousness, and we remember, imagine, and think about it. Yes, we recall and think about it, and what comes out is just a part of it, not everything. Even though everything is included in it, only a very small part is revealed outwardly.

So, I think revealing the world of consciousness like this is the idea. But between this consciousness and the subconscious, so to speak, there is something called the seventh inside. That is, information inside comes out. So, we cannot perceive it consciously, but if we deeply enter into self-hypnosis, we can know it. First, when consciousness falls asleep, it is revealed outwardly. So, dreams are almost like thoughts. So, in a dream, if I see a sheep and find it very pretty and like it, so I want to touch it. Then, can I touch it or not? If I can, then good, if not, then no. This is what I mean by our consciousness. Do you understand? In our deep minds, we want to touch it, but what about in dreams? Can we touch it in dreams, do you understand?

The subconscious is just following the mind because it is asleep. So, this subconscious just goes along with the mind. Therefore, when we say being honest, it means revealing what happens in the mind. When we express it as being honest, it's usually when something that has happened in the mind is revealed. So, compared to a person's consciousness, the subconscious is more honest. It's not always like that, right? They are different levels. That's why dreams are like videotapes. So, when you are in a dream, you mistakenly think it's a live broadcast. But when you wake up, it's not a live broadcast; it's just an illusion. It feels like you are directly experiencing it. For example, if you touch a woman with your hands, you feel the sensation, right? You feel the soft touch. Similarly, when you meet and touch a woman in a dream, you feel the same soft sensation. However, when you open your eyes, your hands are just still, not touching anything. But it feels the same.

Sensations arise, and why is that happening? What is recorded in the brain? All those sensations are fully remembered. That's what a dream is. So, when dreaming, just like in reality, when dreaming within a dream, not knowing it's a dream, who would run away and who would be afraid? Because they think it's reality, fear arises. So, if you know it's a dream, what if you try to run away? Should you do that? Open your eyes, should you do that? Should you try to escape? That's how it was. If you look at nightmares, now, to some extent, even intelligent people have nightmares and suffer, but they might think, I didn't know it was a dream. Then, try to open your eyes. Yes, run away. Trying to open your eyes, but your eyelids feel so heavy that they won't open, right? So, if you open your eyes wide, nothing happens, right? That's right. Dreams are remembered whether we wake up or not.

Whether dreams are remembered or not, dreams always exist. In other words, when a live broadcast is turned off, what makes my broadcast automatically turn back on? Just close your eyes tightly, and if you meditate, many delusions will arise. At first, it seems like there are no thoughts, but soon many delusions arise. It's natural, right? When external information stops coming in, my broadcast starts running. So when you sleep, dreams naturally come and go. Therefore, with this jumbled information, yes, I met a man outside and ended up holding a baby and a dog later. At first, it was a baby, but later, it was a dog, and vice versa. This confusion occurs and manifests. But you see, your thoughts are the same. Dreams are like that, a bit chaotic.

I think so, everyone. While I'm listening to this legal text right now, even if I talk about something else, you are listening and your ears are hearing, and your eyes are seeing, but your thoughts are going somewhere else, and it becomes glorious. Do you understand the feeling of touching something with your fingertips, and when you touch it, the thought of touching it comes out only through your mouth? If you keep saying this and that, saying this and that, the listener will become confused. Dreams are like that, but what do we usually remember? How do you feel when you dream, exactly when you fall into a deep sleep? How about shallow sleep? How about when you need to sleep for just a few hours but you feel uncomfortable, so you end up napping for about an hour a day.

Around 15 hours or so, if you sleep a lot, you dream a lot, right? If you sleep less, you have fewer dreams. If you sleep less, various delusions occur, right? So, when you recognize moving things, you dream a lot. But how about sleeping for a short time? Sleep is when our brains rest like this for a very short time while various activities happen. Do you understand? This action is a lot of resting. Then, again, it represents the state of dreams like this, falling into a light sleep for a moment and then appearing again. In other words, dreams occur in the state of light sleep, so the film is erased completely, making it impossible to remember. That's why when we wake up from this light sleep, dreams that are immediately remembered quickly disappear. It seems like everything will be remembered in a moment, but if you wake up and stay for about 5 minutes, what you dreamed of will be gone.

I can't remember anything spatially, and then if you have a second dream, why do you see it in vain? Having these kinds of thoughts can be helpful for one's own study. Even monks say that if you act quietly in dreams, it's not like that. If someone says it's difficult, you can't borrow it, and if you want to give, you won't give it generously. It's like that. It's normal, but in dreams, if you ask for a loan, you won't lend it, and if you want to give, you won't give it. Your temperament is strict, and in that case, if I see it in a dream, do you understand? What does that mean? If I act like this, everything shouldn't be like this, it's wrong. Even if I adjust it to a large extent, my innate characteristics from childhood, there are still many parts left. Do you understand? So, I can figure out through dreams how my latent, internal state of consciousness is. In that way, it can also be helpful.

It helps me to be helpful to difficult people and the public, but in my dream, I like to play. So, what does it mean? In this kind of dream, adding depth to the psychology, a gap is created between consciousness and unconsciousness, leading to conflicts. People like this often don't have a bright facial expression, so they make an effort to do this. By making an effort, they can check their own state. Even if someone insults me, I don't react, but if they insult a certain aspect, like asking if I've taken money or something like that, then people tend to get defensive, right? In those situations, it's not because I studied, but it's a sign that I still have attachments to certain things, mistakes, or failures. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

No, through that, one can check one's state, so one cannot obsess over dreams. Dreams are not worth analyzing. However, one can also learn through dreams. But you all do not learn as a means of proving yourselves through dreams. You think, Will good things happen today or bad things happen today? You do not view it as a way to check yourself. Oh, so this is in me. Oh, I seem to have been leaning towards this psychological state lately. That's it. So, if you sleep too much, it's not good. If you sleep too much, your head hurts, your body gets worse, and you get more tired. That's why sleeping too much is not good. So, if you stay up all night for about two days without sleeping and then sleep for a while, how about that? Have you ever experienced feeling refreshed even after a short nap? So, a little fatigue in the body is good.

Getting a good night's sleep is also good for your health. If you just leave it short and lie down for a long time, your head hurts as if it's going to break, you feel cloudy-headed, you want to sleep more and more, and you can't fall asleep. In fact, the amount of deep sleep our body needs is not much. It's said that you only need about 20 minutes, 20 minutes, 20 minutes, about one hour. People can't sleep exactly, so if you do it well, you can sleep for two or three hours. There is a person like Nafre who used to nap for two hours each time, and lived like that. Even in our Seoul temple, oh, one couple almost sleeps three hours a day. I don't even doze off. I used to live with my grandmother for about three hours in the past, but now my body is in pain, so I need to rest because of my body. So, these days, I sleep a lot more. So, these days, I go to bed later. Who doesn't have anyone like that these days?

It's not just about resting the brain when you sleep, but also about giving your body a rest. So, when you lie down, you have to rest. If you can't sleep, you'll only dream. You should sleep when you're sleepy. There are many things to consider.

[2001년 그 시절 젊은 법륜스님의 즉문즉설] 수면 중 꿈의 실체는 무엇인가요?

법륜 스님 공식 유튜브 채널입니다. 
법륜 스님과 대화 속에서 개인의 고민을 풀어가는 유튜브 공식 채널입니다.
[생방송 즉문즉설] 매주 금요일 저녁 7시 30분

Official YouTube channel of Ven. Pomnyun Sunim. This is the official channel where personal concerns are addressed through conversations with Ven. Pomnyun Sunim.
[Live Dharma Q&As] Every Friday evening at 7:30pm(KST)
