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### 엘든 링: 양손잡이 및 양손잡이 시스템에 대한 비판
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스콧은 엘든 링의 양손 휘두르기 시스템에는 단점이 없으므로 객관적으로 양손 휘두르기보다 낫다고 평가합니다.

Hey guys, Scott here. Today, I want to talk about dual-wielding versus two-handing a weapon in Elden Ring. I actually want to offer a bit of criticism for the whole dual-wielding system because I think it is a system that wasn't very well designed. They didn't really introduce enough downsides for the immense benefits you get from dual-wielding. And then two-handing is sort of left in the dust. Now, I'm not saying we need to change anything. I think for the most part, his issues are fine, and it's mostly just looking for something to critique. But I do think there is something here, and I think it's because dual-wielding is just simply too good in this game. There's no real opportunity cost other than you not being able to have like a shield or something in your offhand. That's pretty much it. For example, let's look at just like the standard one-handed R1 of a curved sword, just like this, right.

let's look at the two-handed r1 of a curve sword. Pretty much the same kind of thing, right? And now let's look at the dual-wielded l1s of a curved sword. It, they're the same speed. They come at the exact same speed. So, the only difference is you're just doing double the damage on the next attack. And like the running r1 is here, two-handed running r1 is here. And then we have the running l1 which hits four times. It's just like every time you power stance a weapon, it's just objectively better. And I don't think it should necessarily be like that. I think there should be some type of, I don't know, some type of opportunity cost or something like that because if you don't have that, it makes two-handing weapons like this pretty obsolete. Um, the only exceptions are when you get to like the big colossal weapons, sometimes it's fine to just hold one, um, but pretty much any weapon that's like smaller or the same size as like a spear, there's pretty much

no reason to not do a wheeled. I mean in this game and I don't think that's a good idea. I think dual wielding should be a choice that you go for. Nada. Why am I not doing this thing because one is just objectively better than the other and I think that's a good idea. Another lesser-known fact about dual wielding versus two-handing, uh, is that the poise values don't really, they don't match up. So if you're dual wielding, you'll typically do like a bit more poise damage than just like one, uh, if you're just holding one weapon. But you would think if you're two-handing your weapon, it's going to do way more poise damage, right? Poise damage, by the way, is the damage that is done to poise and poisons that dictates whether or not you get stunned by an attack. So basically, bigger weapons do more poise damage, and that's why an ultra greatsword will basically always stun you, but a little, you know, a dagger might not stun you. That's poison action, um, but

if we look at something like I don't know here, like the curved sword we're looking at, so a curved sword one-handed r1 does 51 poise damage, meaning that if you have 51 poise, you will not get stunned by a hit until you're hit again. Then you'll obviously get stunned by the next one. However, if you look at the two-handed r1, it's just 56 poise. It's basically the pattern is two-handing the weapon gives you 10 percent more poise damage, which is not really worth it. So that's 56 poise. Now if you look at the power stance l1, it's 61 poise. So it you just do more poise damage, you do more regular damage, you have better attacks most of the time. It's sort of to the point where like why would I ever two hand a regular weapon. And I don't like that it's made obsolete in this game, you know, in Dark Souls 3.

were holding a gargoyle, a flamester or something like that. You would never really want to one-hand that. You would probably want to two-hand that. Or you can one-handed with a shield, and that'd be okay. Or you could try to do something crazy with your offhand as well. Like there were a bit less incentive to always want to dual wield something, but in this game, if you have a spear and you're not planning to be a fingerprint shield-poking monstrosity, you just should have another spear in your hand. It's so hard for me to say don't have another spear in your hand because two-handing it is just worse than having two regular spears. So, and I think that's uh something worthy of critiquing with the game. Now what I would do to change this is increase maybe the strength damage bonus of two-handing weapons because right now you get uh 50 more strength scaling if you are uh two-handing a weapon, but problem is a lot of these weapons

are not scaling with strength, but if you're holding a keen katana and you just like the look of two-handing a katana because that's, you know, how you're supposed to two-handed, you're supposed to two-end katanas. Um, that doesn't get any bonus damage like at all. The motion values are slightly higher for, uh, you know, two-handing it, but other than that, it's not that much higher. Um, and your poise damage is less than just simply having two guitars. Your damage is halved compared to having two katanas. Um, so I, I would love to see not dual wielding nerfed. I would love to see two, like, you know, two-handing a weapon to be buffed. I don't think it's strong enough comparative to the immense benefits you're getting from dual wielding. Um, and I think that's probably part of the issue. And there's not even a downside with, like, weapon arts because you can have, you know, like even like on this character, I have, uh, on my left hand, I have thunderbolt so

in case I ever want to do that, I can nuke people from afar. And then on my right hand, I have, you know, whatever I want, so I can have multiple weapon arts too. So it's even better on that regard too because if you're two-handing it, you're just stuck with the one, and that's all you got unless you're, you know, you're quick swapping the stuff because you can't really expect everyone to do that. Um, yeah, so I think overall that we need to buff two-handing because there's just no real incentive to do it like at all, none that I can think of. And the change I would make personally is make it so they do way more poise damage. So instead of this doing 56 poise damage, um, and then, you know, like one-handed is 51, this is 56, and this is 61 points damage. Make it so this is like, I don't know, 75, 80, or something like that. Make it so if I'm going to be taking half damage or I'm

going to be doing half damage by virtue of not using another weapon here, and I'm not going to be using a shield. I have no other things that I'm doing make me at least stun people a bit easier. I think that would be a pretty nice trade-off and uh something that we can probably all get behind. Um, but other than that, that's about it. I just wanted to offer a criticism on there because yeah, I don't like that this game basically forces you into dual-wielding every similar weapon class because it's just so much obviously better with no real downside. I don't think that's a good idea. I think the way Dark Souls 2 did it was a bit better where you had basically two separate move sets you could do running L1s and running R1s. The L1 would attack with your left hand, the R1 attack with your right hand. And then you could actually activate power stance mode, which had a higher stat requirement, which is another thing that this game doesn't have. And then another reason that you might as

well just do a wheeled every weapon um and you activated power stance mode which was a unique you know double move set so i think there's a lot of avenues they could go but the safest one to make people the most happy is simply to just buff two-handed attacks because they're just not strong enough in comparison to dual wheels but that's about it thanks for watching guys curious to hear what you think about it see you next time

A Critique of Dual Wielding vs. Two-Handing in Elden Ring

Scott Jund

엘든 링의 양손 무기는 불균형한 설계로 인해 엄청난 이점을 제공하면서도 단점은 최소화하여 양손 무기에 대한 선호도가 떨어진다는 비판을 받고 있습니다.

대부분의 무기에서 양손 휘두르기 시스템은 피해량과 속도 면에서 객관적으로 더 나은 것으로 간주되어 양손 휘두르기 옵션을 압도합니다.

이러한 게임 메커니즘의 불균형은 매우 큰 무기를 제외하고는 양손 무기를 거의 쓸모없게 만드는 것으로 간주됩니다.

다크 소울 3에서 듀얼 휘두르기의 우수성

다크 소울 3에서는 양손 휘두르기가 한손 휘두르기보다 객관적으로 더 나은데, 더 많은 공격력과 더 나은 공격력을 제공합니다.

무기를 양손으로 잡으면 평정 공격력이 10%만 증가하므로 양손으로 잡을 때와 비교하면 그만한 가치가 없습니다.

쌍수 휘두르기의 파워 자세 L1은 가장 높은 평정 공격력을 제공하므로 게임에서 일반 무기를 양손으로 사용하는 것은 쓸모가 없습니다.

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무기를 두 손으로 잡으면 양손으로 잡을 때보다 보너스 공격력이 거의 없고 평정력 피해도 낮습니다.

양손 무기의 이점과 양손 무기의 균형을 맞추기 위해 양손 무기에 버프를 부여할 것을 제안합니다.

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파워 스탠스 모드가 있었던 다크 소울 2와 달리 현재 시스템에서는 플레이어가 별다른 단점 없이 양손잡이를 강요받는다고 생각합니다.

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