WE ARE JOINED THIS MORNING BY ONE OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN BUSINESS, TECH, AND PHILANTHROPY. BILL GATES FOUNDED MICROSOFT. HE HAS SUPPORTED CAUSES AROUND THE GLOBE BY GIVING AWAY NEARLY $60 BILLION THROUGH HIS GATES FOUNDATION. HIS NEWEST PROJECT IS A NETFLIX SERIES CALLED WHAT'S NEXT: THE FUTURE WITH BILL GATES. HE EXAMINES WAYS TO SOLVE SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE FACE TODAY, INCLUDING THE USE OF A.I., CLIMATE CHANGE, CREATING RESPONSIBLE A.I., MISINFORMATION, INCOME INEQUALITY, AND DEALING WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASES. BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN SOLVE THEM. HOW WILL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

IMPACT SOCIETY? CRAFTED TEXTS TO MY SON USING GEN Z SLANG. YO, FAM. WHAT'S GOOD? HOW YOU VIBING? >> WE WERE JUST TALKING BEFORE WE CAME ON ABOUT THIS SERIES. WE ALL WATCHED IT. IT IS REALLY FASCINATING. AND YOU TAKE A UNIQUE APPROACH. MALARIA, MISINFORMATION, CLIMATE CHANGE. YOU TALK ABOUT WAYS, PERHAPS, THAT WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF EARTH'S MOST DAUNTING PROBLEMS. HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE TOPICS? AND WHAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THE SERIES? >> WELL, I'M VERY LUCKY I GET TO WORK ON A.I. I GET TO WORK ON GLOBAL HEALTH. MISINFORMATION IS THE ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN A SUBJECT OF MISINFORMATION. I TALKED TO LADY GAGA WHO HAD IT.

EVEN WORSE. I'M LUCKY I GET TO TALK TO EXPERTS. SO WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SERIES CAME ALONG, I THOUGHT, YEAH, THIS WILL BE FUN. >> THE FIRST EPISODE GRABS MY ATTENTION. YOU TALK WITH DIRECTOR JAMES CAMERON, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS GENIUS BECAUSE FROM THE CREATIVE SIDE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AVATAR AND TERMINATOR. HE TALKED ABOUT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS THE WARNING SIGNS. HE EQUATED IT TO HEADING FULL SPEED TOWARD THE ICEBERG. I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING. HE TALKED ABOUT LOSING JOBS OR CREATIVE. YOU TALKED ABOUT LOSING PURPOSE. IF COMPUTERS DO EVERYTHING FOR YOU, WHAT AM I HERE FOR?

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT? >> YEAH. IN THE NEAR TERM, THE IDEA OF USING A.I. TO PUT THE EDUCATION. I HAVE BEEN OUT IN NEW JERSEY AND SEEING THE PILOTS OUT IN NEWARK, USING IT IN HEALTH CARE. EVEN TODAY, IF YOU GET AN MRI, YOU KNOW, THE A.I. WILL SIMPLIFY IT FOR YOU OR A COMPLEX MEDICAL BILL. IT'S SO POWERFUL, IT IS THE FIRST TECHNOLOGY THAT IS HAPPENING VERY QUICKLY AND THERE IS NO LIMIT, YOU KNOW. WHEN WE HAD TRACTORS IT WAS, OKAY, FARMERS CAN DO OTHER THINGS. HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST EVERY KIND OF JOB, WHICH SHOULD MEAN MORE LEISURE TIME. BUT THEN IT IS GOING TO CREATE ALMOST A, WOW, WHAT DO WE DO

WITH ALL THAT TIME TYPE PROBLEM. >> AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THE BENEFITS OF A.I. ALL OF US HAVE A FEAR OF IT AS WELL. SO IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE SOME OF THE EXPERTS IN THE EPISODE SAID, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IT FIGURES OUT WHAT IT DOES SOMETIMES, WHICH IS KIND OF SCARY. SO DO YOU THINK COMPANIES THAT ARE CREATING THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE DOING ENOUGH TO SAFE GUARD IT FOR US? >> WELL, THERE IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW SHOULD IT BE REGULATED? AND THE COMPANIES ARE SAYING YES. THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND OUR WORK AND NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE RIGHT REGULATIONS. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAYING, OKAY, THE U.S.

WANTS TO STAY AHEAD. SO WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT, OH, COULD WE SLOW IT DOWN? THEY'RE LIKE, DON'T SLOW IT DOWN YET. AND, SO, IT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST -- THE BIGGEST CHANGE AGENT IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. MOSTLY GOOD STUFF. >> MOSTLY. >> BUT WILL WE GET IT RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'RE STILL ARGUING ABOUT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE LET YOUNG KIDS USE IT AS MUCH. >> RIGHT. >> AND HOW DO YOU BALANCE FREE SPEECH VERSUS CRAZY STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, GOT PEOPLE NOT TO TAKE VACCINES, FOR EXAMPLE. >> RIGHT, EXACTLY. >> NOW THE TOOTHPASTE IS OUT OF THE TUBE IT SEEMS LIKE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU

SAID THERE. HOW CAN REGULATORS REGULATE A.I. WHEN IT SEEMS MOST OF THEM DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. >> WELL, THEY CAN CREATE LIABILITY. SAY A.I. IS GIVING HEALTH ADVICE. THEY CAN SAY, OKAY, IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. AND, SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DISCRIMINATORY, YOU CAN MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE. BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING SO FAST, WRITING THE RULES IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT THEMSELVES TO BE USERS SO THEY UNDERSTAND, WOW, THIS IS WHERE IT'S INCREDIBLY GOOD. THIS IS WHERE IT SOMETIMES GOES NUTS.

>> DO YOU USE IT? >> OH, YEAH. NOW, WHEN I WANT TO SUMMARIZE A MEETING OR TAKE A BOOK THAT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ. YET, THEY JUST -- BUT EVEN TO DRAFT SOME COMPLEX POINTS, A SPEECH, NO, THIS I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME. IT COULD EVEN WRITE, YOU KNOW, POEMS AND SONGS IN A WAY THAT IS SURPRISINGLY CREATIVE. >> HAVE YOU TRIED IT? >> I HAVE. >> I'M INTIMIDATED BY IT. >> I'M INTIMIDATED BY IT, YES. >> HAVE A FRIEND SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND PLAY AROUND. >> WILL YOU BE MY FRIEND? >> WE HAVE SO MUCH WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, INCLUDING SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THAT

NETFLIX SERIES WHEN YOU SAT DOWN WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS. YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR OWN HEALTH. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID. >> YOU ARE A VERY INNOVATIVE GUY. YOU DESERVE FINANCIAL REWARD. YOU DO. HOW MUCH DO YOU DESERVE? >> WE WILL GET BILL'S THOUGHT >>> WE ARE BACK WITH TECH TITAN AND FILL LAN TROE MISS BILL GETS. HIS SERIES IS OUT ON NETFLIX RIGHT NOW. IT'S FASCINATING. BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL BREAK THERE, WE PLAYED A CLIP WHERE SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL FORTUNE. YOU HAD GIVEN AWAY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF YOUR OWN WEALTH TO ADVANCE CAUSES IN POOR COUNTRIES AND PROMOTE GENDER EQUALITY. BUT DOES THE SENATOR HAVE A

POINT? DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY? AND SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT BE ABLE TO SAY, ENOUGH, LET'S HELP REDISTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT? >> YEAH. IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE TAX SYSTEM, I WOULD HAVE PAID A LOT MORE IN TAXES. I WOULD HAVE ABOUT A THIRD AS MUCH MONEY AS I HAVE. BERNIE WOULD GO FURTHER. HE WOULD BASICALLY SAY THAT YOU CAN NEVER BE A BILLIONAIRE, THAT AT THAT POINT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY 100%. AND I'D BE WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DISTORTIONS AND THE DISINCENTIVE WOULD GO FARTHER. MAYBE I'M BIASED. BUT I WOULD COLLECT A LOT MORE FROM PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE DEFICIT.

AND HAVE A MORE GENEROUS SAFETY NET. >> SO YOU FEEL LIKE THE ULTRA WEALTHY SHOULD BE PAYING MORE IN TAXES. >> WE SHOULD PAY MORE. >> HOW MUCH MORE? >> YOU KNOW, THE -- THE TAX ON LABOR AND THE TAX ON CAPITAL, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS ARGUMENT THAT DO YOU NEED TO TREAT CAPITAL SPECIALLY? I DON'T BELONG WITH THAT. I THINK CAPITAL GAINS AND ORDINARY INCOME WE SHOULD TAX AT THE SAME RATE. AND I'M ALSO A BIG BELIEVER IN THE ESTATE TAX. ACTUALLY, MY DAD, WHO IS DECEASED AND I SAID, THIS IS HOW YOU PREVENT DYNASTIES AND ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO DO MORE PHILANTHROPY. YOU HAVE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER TAXES, BUT YOU LET PEOPLE DO PHILANTHROPY, THAT'S REALLY

GREAT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE. VERY RARELY DO WE HAVE GUESTS WHERE ALL THREE OF US ARE LEANING ON EVERY WORD. THIS SHOW HIGHLIGHTS THE PROGRESS IN FIGHTING DISEASE. THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT GRABBED MY ATTENTION. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK IN THE FIGHT AGAINST MALARIA. BUT SPEAKING OF HEALTH, I REMEMBER DURING COVID, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND YOU WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER PANDEMIC. DOES THAT STILL RENT SPACE IN YOUR MIND? >> SADLY, WHEN THE PANDEMIC ENDED, I THOUGHT, OKAY, NOW WE WILL SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO WELL AND HOW WE WILL

DO BETTER NEXT TIME. PEOPLE ARE LIKE, NO, DON'T BRING THAT UP. IT IS SO DIVISIVE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PARTISAN DUES ABOUT WHAT WENT WELL AND WHAT DIDN'T THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARING OURSELVES FOR THE NEXT ONE. AND I'M HOPEFUL, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT PEOPLE WILL GO BACK AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, IF WE DON'T HAVE GOOD HEALTH SYSTEMS IN AFRICA, THEY CAN'T CATCH THESE THINGS EARLY AND STOP THEM FROM GOING GLOBAL. OF COURSE, THE COST WAS SO GIGANTIC THAT MAKING SURE YOU SEE IT EARLY AND STOP IT IS WORTH A LOT. >> PREVENT WHAT YOU CAN. ONE OF YOUR EPISODES TACKLES CLIMATE CHANGE. YOU BECAME A GRANDPARENT LAST

YEAR. WE ALL HAVE SEVERAL KIDS BETWEEN ALL OF US. WHAT KIND OF WORLD DO YOU THINK WE ARE LEAVING FOR OUR KIDS? DID THAT INCREASE YOUR SENSE OF URGENCY TO FIX SOME OF THE THINGS? >> OH, DEFINITELY. MY FIRST GRANDCHILD IS ACTUALLY HERE IN NEW YORK CITY AND COULDN'T BE CUTER. ABOUT ONE OR SO NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, WOW, THAT MEANS THE WORLD 50, 60 YEARS AGO WOULD BE THE WORLD THAT SHE LIVES IN. AND WE'RE NOT MAKING ENOUGH PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, AND THE DAMAGE KIND OF ACCUMULATES OVER TIME. SO THE NEED TO INNOVATE, I MET A LOT OF YOUNG ACTIVISTS WHO ARE REALLY HARSH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. I FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW,

INSPIRING AND MOTIVATING. >> SO THERE ARE PEOPLE LOOKING TO MAKE CHANGE. >> THERE ARE. THERE ARE ALMOST TOO MANY CAUSES RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE GOT WARS. YOU'VE GOT INTEREST PAYMENTS. IT'S -- IT'S A TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE PICK THE RIGHT THINGS AND SET OUR PRIORITIES WILL BE CHALLENGING BUT IMPORTANT. >> BILL GATES. WE LOVE THAT YOU SOUND HOPEFUL. >> I AM. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COME BACK.

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