A lot of people use sperm banks, and originally, actually, that's what we thought we would do. And once we thought about it more, it just felt right to know somebody and feel like, you know, you can trust them. I definitely thought about who would be a good role model and who would be a good influence, somebody who would be open to having some kind of role, and that all had to evolve. We had no idea, you know, I knew enough about your situation to know that it had taken some time to find somebody, but it just, it seemed like there was really no reason not to do it. No, we were, I mean, my gosh, we were so happy. I mean, I mean, I guess because you were somebody that we thought of from the start. I don't know, that's a plus. So this one, this one I don't date you, David. Okay, for the home study, we had to fill out all sorts of paperwork. We had to get criminal background checks and then like a child abuse track for both of us. We were like, that's

five thousand dollars, you know, just to like adopt your own child, which sounds insane. Essentially, North Carolina Supreme Court made a ruling that going forward, they will not do any more same-sex adoption. We wanted to contact our attorney to figure out, like, well, how can we at least terminate your rights, but apparently, like, there's not a way to do that. We talked in the past about the fact that it was just more than one way to make a family, and I want people to see that representation. I thought that donating was the end of it, but now it's like donating is like the beginning of this whole other thing, and I don't know that I saw that coming. You

Between Friends & Family (Trailer)

Between Friends & Family (Trailer)