Did we start? Did we start? Hello, as I mentioned earlier, it's time for our team's betrayal, Bbappiyong Special. I will soon introduce the villains, but before that, I would like to thank our sponsors for their support. Our Ye-seul gave me this recently as a product placement. What is it? It's the Bring Green Tea Tree Chica Soothing Toner. I will try using it once. When you apply this, like this, continuously... I am a beauty YouTuber, so when you stick it like this for beauty... Oh, if you have a bit of redness like me, especially in the summer, when the heat rises a lot, my face gets red all the time. So, when you apply it, first of all, let me tell you my initial impression.

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There is also a soothing cream, so if you use both together, yes, it would be very nice. This time, our sponsor has provided us with sponsorship and prepared an event for us. So, we have gathered three essential calming items that are a must-have during the vacation season. Ta-da! We have collected these calming items, three samples. There is a Bring Green sample giveaway event. It will be posted in the fixed comments section soon, so please make sure to participate and receive this. Alright, let's gather the betrayers and have a chat. Betrayers, come in. Oh, yes, that's right. Put this aside and give out gifts. Oh, I don't want to give these out, but you're a big company, so you always receive these. This place is even bigger. Now, let's have a special episode of Pappy today. People who have left my side, many of them.

I met them, but they are the friends who stabbed a knife in my heart and left. If they become independent, it would be great if they failed miserably. If they become independent and achieve great success, they are the friends who are so proud on one side. Nice to meet you. First, please introduce yourselves. Yes, I am. Yes, I am Yeongseok, a senior in the team. Yes, I am a PD who was born and raised, a PD. Yes, as a PD, I was born and raised. Now, I am Jo Eunjin, producing channels like Antenna Plus and growing channels well. Yes, hello. I am Kim Songa, a writer who is doing well on the channel run under Woo Jungwon. Nice to meet you. Hello. Actually, you two are so famous that there is no need for an introduction. You are the main PD and main writer who are currently operating a very famous channel. Since we have been friends who have worked together for a long time, today, let's have a heart-to-heart talk and figure out why I am lacking in something.

I'm going to check again if they left or not, and because of the open leader, Eunji, please check that part again today. Oh, could you first tell us some recent news? How is it going these days? It's just an excuse, but we are mainly working hard. Like in the old days, it's still going very well. Because we do well, our subscribers keep supporting us steadily, and we almost regularly have great things every week. It's amazing. It's not the good old days I knew. Oh, it's just getting worse. Just happily doing it with Jay. I don't have one. Jaeseok, Won, and subscribers are treating us so well, and we also have new channels these days. The channel is growing rapidly, and with Yang Se-chan, we are creating a new channel.

Once we started the channel, Sook, are you doing well now? Well, a bit irritated. Oh, no. But, coming from a channel with 6 million subscribers, now working at a large corporation, so this company, this big company, is launching Sook Sook and enjoying making it. So, we are having various meetings with Yang Se-chan and trying out different contents. So, if anyone wants to see some new content, I think it would be good to search for Sook Sook. The workload has doubled. It's okay, Writer Song. It's fun. Oh, really? Yes, it's fun. When working with us, it's tough to the point of wanting to die, not like that. The opportunity for me to change jobs was also thanks to the senior team.

As we've been together for a long time, that became a chance for me to change jobs. If you weren't working in a different team, I would have given you a heads-up about moving to another company. The moment of changing jobs can involve a lot of contemplation and conflict, so I will take care of everything from now until the end. I will touch upon when you dreamt of betrayal at some point and other aspects. I will listen to how your job change is going and then, based on that, I will manage all the friends here as a counterexample. Yes, let's talk a bit about the job change. You might have some regrets later, but since we met our juniors after a long time today, let's share the story of your career as a PD and writer who has been operating energetically.

When did you join the company? You started in the field in 2017 with New Journey to the West Season 4. Season 4 of New Journey to the West. Then, when you went to Vietnam, you joined New Journey to the West, and from then on, continuously, New Journey to the West 4, 5, 6. Oh, it's the anniversary of the establishment. After that, you were with our team. It's surprising that even in a small house in the forest, that team had done it once, and Three Meals a Day, Youth Over Flowers, and unexpectedly various programs were also done on TV. That's right, and as for me, I've been with you a bit. In fact, PD Jo Eunjin is a veteran of 15 years. Yes, starting from Grandpas Over Flowers, you traveled back and forth, but you also did your own programs. You said you would do shoulder dances with Hyun until when, and with Song Mino, the pilot of Song Mino, and you went on a business trip to Siem Reap with Hyojeong sunbae. In fact, you did a lot of work in various fields. PD Eunjin did a lot of work like that, and then...

Now, did you come in as a guest for the first time? When I was on New Journey to the West 6, oh, during the Hong Kong 1 special, where did you come in? Before that, I was on Running Man, and then I came over here. Oh, I was doing Running Man, and then, oh, then who interviewed you? It was Senior Choi Jae-young. Oh, Choi Jae-young. What did you talk about during the interview? Actually, Jae-young was quite straightforward. He just asked what I usually do and what I might do if I come here, something like that. But he said one thing precisely, Don't go anywhere. Stay put until I call you. Oh, that was kind of cool. Don't go anywhere. Just wait until I call you. Give it a try until my call comes. Jo Eun-jin said, Don't go anywhere. I really don't like that kind of thing. That's how I got in after going through that interview. That must have been when we first met, right? During New Journey to the West, right? Oh, the Ghost Olympics.

We started with the Ghost Olympics. It was in Korea, right? Yes, it was. After finishing the Ghost Olympics, we went to Hong Kong. There, was it the Cali Hotel? Cali Hotel, Carrie Hotel. It was so nice back then. It was a brand new hotel, right? I only remember good things like that. So, I really had a bad senior, you know. I was like, Wow, this is so nice. I only remember things like that, with a really disdainful expression. Wasn't there any episodes or difficult things back then? People who come here often talk about that a lot. Look at the situation. Suddenly, the situation changed because someone called. I don't know why it changed, but it did. There are things like that, you know. Maybe you didn't explain the situation properly to the kids. Hey, guys, if you had explained the situation well, the friends below would have understood.

It's confusing. There must be a reason why it changed like this. If you do it like this, you guys just change it like this. Why? If you do that, what should I change for? Since you are not communicating well, oh, you didn't know either. Looking at the situation, I changed a lot. At that time, for more fun, it was changed like that. After the Olympics the previous day, the next day, when we were supposed to go to the airport altogether, the performers were supposed to take a coffee bus for transportation. But that day, after playing the game and filming, I don't remember why it changed like that. It's all separate, right? Yes, that's right. Depending on the ranking at that time, some took the subway, some took a box, some took a taxi. So, the arrangement we had sorted out the day before had to be completely redone.

It was possible, but it was close to midnight, and the next day, the departure time was early in the morning. Reporters could even get some sleep. So, at that time, reporters were contacted one by one, and the situation changed. It would be nice if you could wrap up like this. After finishing the filming of the Olympics and withdrawing, while backing up, the reporters worked really hard on the bus. So, the organization went well anyway. When getting off the bus, Yeongseo senior said, Was Eunjin here? But this is a rumor. Writer Ujeong said that Eunjin PD continued working here. Ujeong, the writer, not Ujeong Midam, but Ujeong, who likes everything now. Ujeong knows everything, even that the youngest PD is having a hard time right now.

Senior, you seemed very tired and went to sleep. But you were actually awake. Do you remember anything from Hong Kong, like a sword or something? It was tough and memorable. Since we are about to start our game program, we need to play a lot of games until just before the launch. Depending on the situation, we need to play appropriate games. This is really necessary, not just an excuse. We don't know how the extra games will turn out, so we need to prepare a lot. Among them, we have been preparing a lot for things like the TikTok challenge. We watched a lot of TikTok to get game ideas, and we are preparing things that the new members thought would be done well and fun.

Now, kids used to play rock-paper-scissors and put charcoal from the kiln on the face of the loser. I remember it. In Africa, there was a game where children stick a knife on their face. Do you remember that? When we saw that in the past, we thought it would be so fun. Everyone, including Hodong, thought it would be so fun. We thought we could do it so well, so we decided to do it. Then, we thought about using a similar bowl, but we realized we had to bring a kiln lid. The lid for the kiln, specifically from Korea, was heavy, so we had to bring it. Because without it, the feeling was not there. That's why we brought it with us. In Hong Kong, there is no such thing.

It might not be there, Soonya. That's right. So, maybe when you arrive in Hong Kong, you won't do it at the Kerry Hotel or the next place. When will you do it? So, it's okay to just throw it away. But just in case, just in case, even if just in case, let's take it. One day, we might be able to do that. Gyeongsuk unni finally contacted us saying, The lid is ready. Finally, finally, I will do it. So, in the picnic team, our Soonya kept carrying the lid or the suitcase all the time. Then one day, she said she could do it, so she brought it up. There, she just started applying it diligently, but suddenly, when she looked down, the members were nowhere to be found. They said they went, they went. It's over. Just like that. For example, in the group chat, Soonya, why do you think we can't do it here? What should we do?

Could it have been like this? At that time, we probably went somewhere else to play games in the evening, but we were carrying a sword gun, so we kept carrying it. We even carried it during Seven. We didn't know when to use it, so we ended up using it, right? Yes, it was during your time here, right? Yes, it was refreshing back then. That's right, yes, it happened someday. It happened someday, and it was resolved well. Yes, there was an issue with the lid. Yes, that's right. Did you continue together until the next program? How was it? Yes, we did Kang's Kitchen together, and then Kang's Kitchen: Two Kids and Kang's Kitchen: Parody. After that, your paths diverged. That's correct. After that, Song-A continued with TV, and how about you, Song-A? After that, I did Spring Camp, a wise country life.

Living together, traveling, and enjoying the lacquer studio must have been memorable. It seems like tears are welling up in your eyes now, but are you okay? It was fun, right? While we were enjoying ourselves, let's also take a look at Eunjin's life track. Towards the end, now that Songhwa is doing a spring camp and traveling, we have been following the TV route together. On the other hand, Eunji took a slightly different route in the middle. Starting from Aganse, when you were on TV, don't you think filming here would be fun? In this way, in a short period, Eunjin had many experiences. Because we cherish Eunjin so much, and Eunjin cherishes me so much, Eunjuni can continue to grow steadily. She has also grown a lot. While doing Aganse and TV, senior Hyeonyong was doing things like Mapo Meotjaengi or something like that first, and now the senior is doing YouTube for me.

Did you become interested and go to Channel A? So, when I went there, I actually thought of participating in a program that other seniors were doing at a sub level, but suddenly a senior said, Hey, why don't you plan something? Oh, a story comes to mind. But I don't think my seniority is about taking the lead or something like that. No, you can do it. Oh, right. At that time, I didn't care about your seniority. I just thought that it's not about seniority or numbers, but that you can do it. Plan what you want to do. Wow, that's really cool. I fell for it even when I'm listening now. How did I say that back then? I was surprised too. That's how I remember it. Now thinking back, Eunjin wants to try small and fun attempts. That's what I want to do. But I always...

It's tough, so anyway, you should try it, you can do it. That's not a lie. Even if you ask like that, from the perspective of a producer, it doesn't seem right. But I keep hearing the same thing over and over again. I get stressed out by friends who just do things without much thought. What worried me at that time was that the plans Eunjin brings are all too drastically different. In episode 1, it's this, in episode 2, it's that, in episode 3, it's something else, and in episode 4, it's a bit like this. But I don't really know which one is right because YouTube and TV are different. But back then, I thought, Shouldn't we make the program somewhat similar to Jin-ah's? Instead of just doing this and that differently, isn't it a bit off? With these thoughts, some conflicts arose.

I thought there was a conflict. In fact, there was a bit of a conflict between Eunjin's thoughts and my thoughts. I think there was a bit of conflict at that time. But when the senior mentioned it, they also said, It will be tough for you if you do it that way. Planning it once and sticking to it is more stable. But in reality, like the Minwoo pilot and the Gwi-hyun's shoulder dance, ultimately, guests change every episode, and the format changes. Your senior always says something like this and then suddenly the next day, they just say, Just do that. So, at that time, I was a bit like, Are they giving up on me? Is that a good thing? I was a bit anxious. It's not about giving up, but honestly, there's no choice. Once you become the main, your friends have opinions, and I have opinions too.

Talking and then turning around to go home, it feels really awkward. Even though I have my own thoughts and things I want to do, what Eunjin said may be right. But if that's right, what should I do? Now I have all sorts of thoughts. So, the next day, I talk about it, not giving permission coolly, but saying, Oh, I see. I understand. Well, then, that's right. And then, finally, one day, a job offer comes in. Yes, a sensitive topic. What is a job change? One day, you receive a phone call. What happened? How did it go? I answered the phone. One day, a call came in. Then you start to worry. Of course, it's a great company with a good reputation, and they are starting a new project there. Young friends may have a desire to challenge themselves. But now, there's a huge opportunity, but back then, there was nothing.

You know, it's like, on the ground, and in the other half, where I was, anyway, Siboya or something like that, or Egg, or our organization, it's still a very big organization in this industry, and Pidi was a good junior who was highly recognized and good at work there. So, well, in a way, he had built up what he had until now, so in the future, he will definitely rise and do well. He must have thought so. Indeed, what kind of concerns will he have at that time? It would be nice to hear about it. I didn't really take changing jobs so seriously, rather than changing companies. I've been on a team for a long time, right? Oh, right. I've always thought about that. So, I should keep putting you in different teams. Take out, put in. I always had that thought, but I couldn't take you out. I didn't want to put you in another team.

I think she's here because she wants to send me to another department. But, I felt like I just wanted to experience something different, like being in another team. I was curious about different environments and how different programs are being developed. Those thoughts have been lingering in my mind. It's a completely different experience, to be honest. It's scary, but not really. Because you're there, Senior Jae-seok. It's not because of you, but honestly, you love challenges. You really enjoy them. That's right, but when you change jobs, it's a completely new experience that shook your heart. So, I don't know how it will turn out, but even if it doesn't work out, I'm still young, and I haven't really succeeded at anything yet. I feel like I'm still at the beginning stage, so I thought, why not give it a try.

It wasn't a planned choice, but just a decision at the moment. From my perspective, as long as it goes well, what is there to worry about? But back then, I didn't know how things would turn out, so I was just anxious about everything. If it didn't work out well, what would I do? I was still young back then. Moreover, I wasn't going alone; I was going with Songhwa. At that moment, it seemed more irritating to go alone. Why would I bring a gun if I were going out alone? But Songhwa has a similar personality. Oh, let's go out together and explore once. In a way, this friend talked to us like this. This friend also thought about it. Ah, this friend has made up his mind. At that moment, I started to think like that too. That excuse came out after all the worries. You know, you really changed the paradigm on YouTube. But what were the results for me? Anyway,

It's very important who you start the content with. Anyway, there was a content called Jeseokgi Hyung, and in the end, that's the dilemma. You can make Running Man with Jeseokgi Hyung in the middle, and you can make excuses. There are extreme points in that, but choosing between the two is actually a very difficult thing. But still, among the things I really learned here, the biggest thing is just maximizing what the cast members are good at and enjoy doing. You should do what is fun and enjoyable so that the viewers can enjoy it too. Now, Jeyeok Sunbae really wanted to exclude me because it's something he likes. Wow, he really learned well. So, excluding me became the key point of my work. And when deciding how to shoot and what to produce, naturally, it became the format.

I think that's why, when shooting, I called my friends anyway to comfortably chat, as I was the host. So, instead of calling the camera, audio, and staff, I just wanted the production team to shoot it, creating an environment where it seemed like only they were there. So, I wanted to keep the scale of the shoot very small. And as a result, in the beginning, the focus would go off, the camera would shake, and so on. What does it matter, right? But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. So, and because of that, it seemed like a new side of Jae Seok senior and those raw things came out. That was one thing. Also, originally, we habitually cut the talk and tried using sound effects and music, but when we did that, the program filled only with words felt a bit chaotic and when we cut it, the desire to watch until the end somewhat disappeared. If you listen to it all, it sounds like...

The topic changes again, so if it's going to be like this, let's just release it in one clip, remove all the music effects, and focus on that charm. It doesn't matter how it turns out, what decorations are done, or what's important from the feed's perspective. People will watch it raw anyway. Even if I try to decorate or do something, those who don't like it won't watch it anyway, right? That's the thing. Yes, that's a strong decision. In fact, I don't think it's an easy decision for a PD with that much experience. I sometimes wonder if I could make such a decision even if I were in that position for some reason. So, in a way, Songhwa, the writer, and Eunjin, the PD, made a very youthful and bold decision, which is commendable. The important thing is, the reason I highly value my friends is because.

That's right, One Hit Wonder, who creates great content with good attempts, can do it. But managing that really well and continuing for a long time without noise, that's really difficult. People around don't even acknowledge why it's difficult. I might not know it well, but Eunjin and Songhwa must be clearly going through it. In fact, it's an experience that cannot be obtained even with money, and it's a difficult task. There must have been many difficult tasks, right? Although I will tell you this, you must have worked really hard and done well, so I want to congratulate you. Oh, yes, anyway, after much consideration, I chose to change jobs, but it's so nice to see the proud juniors who create good works and maintain them firmly in the midst of anxiety. It's really nice to see competitors. How should we, how should we compete with them, competitors, what should we overcome?

There are channels, right? Each subscriber is about one minute, right? Well, how many years have we been doing this? And a large part of our subscribers, isn't it something we created while working together? Whether it's one million or three million, I understand that about half are together. It's been a long time since we met our juniors and had various conversations today. Before we know it, time has passed, and it seems like it's time to wrap up today's broadcast. Please continue to show a lot of interest, and it would be nice if you could show a lot of love to our Antenna Plus as well. Despite the competition from other channels, I think it would be good to say hello to our subscribers. I wanted to express my gratitude to the seniors when we came today. When we work, if we feel anxious or difficult, the seniors always give us compliments.

There are things you give, right? When you think you guys are doing well, oh, I said Yang-senior is good, so he must be good. This is always a certain level of my self-esteem. Fortunately, it seems I have praised you a lot. So I live chewing on those praises, so I'm very thankful. And thank you for cherishing Channel 15 by subscribing. I am also a fan of Channel Ya, so I have a lot of affection, so thank you for watching a lot in the future. Thank you so much. Now, let me ask for greetings from our writer Songhwa. I came here today, thinking it wouldn't be fun if we didn't have fun. It's a live show, but if our Pappy friends are all hesitant and hesitant, then Pappy friends can come here, right? Like this, right?

Earlier, I really had a stomachache, so I turned off the camera. Oh, why go that far? But it seems like I rambled a lot, but you guided me so well, so you are really amazing. Thank you so much. Therefore, I will subscribe and continue to watch your channel in the future. Got it. Thank you so much. Please show a lot of love. Yes, please show a lot of love to our lovely junior PD, writer Eunji, and Songhwa on our channel, Ttuttuga. Also, when you watch Ttuttuga, please watch it three times on the channel. Today's broadcast will end here. Thank you, everyone. Thank you.

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