MAD AT US, PROBABLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE LET GO,

>> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME INTO THE OFFICE? >> I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT

PEOPLE NEED TO -- ARE MORE PRODUCTIVE WHEN THEY'RE IN PERSON -- AND, REALLY, THE

WHOLE SORT OF WORK FROM HOME THING IS LIKE, I THINK THE WHOLE NOTION OF WORK FROM HOME

IS A BIT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FAKE MARIE ANTOINETTE QUOTE, "LET

THEM EAT CAKE." IT'S LIKE, REALLY? YOU'RE GOING TO WORK FROM HOME

AND DON'T WANT TO MAKE A RUN ON WHO MAKES YOUR CAR, AND WORK AT THE FACTORY?

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE YOUR FOOD FOR A LIVING, THEY CAN WORK FROM

HOME? THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PICTURE THEMSELVES IN AN OFFICE, THEY CAN'T WORK FROM HOME, BUT YOU CAN?

DOES THAT SEEM MORALLY RIGHT? THAT'S MESSED UP. >> YOU SEE THIS AS A MORAL

ISSUE? >> YES. >> I SEE IT MORE AS JUST -- >> IT'S PRODUCTIVITY, BUT ALSO

A MORAL ISSUE. GET OFF THE MORAL HIGH HORSE WITH THIS, BECAUSE THEY'RE

ASKING EVERYONE ELSE TO NOT WORK FROM HOME WHILE THEY DO IT. IT'S WRONG. >> THERE'S STILL PUSHBACK, BUT

IT'S STILL GOING ON. THE BATTLE IS STILL HAPPENING. >> YEAH.

>> LEADERS OF ORGANIZATIONS -- AND I SPEAK TO PLENTY OF THEM

-- I WANT PEOPLE BACK. THREE DAYS A WEEK, THEY'RE STILL BATTLING.

>> YEAH. >> IT'S NOT CLEAR IT'S EVER GOING TO CHANGE. PEOPLE ARE NOT COMING BACK FIVE

DAYS A WEEK. >> NO. THE LAPTOP CLASSES ARE LIVING IN LA-LA LAND.

THE COST OF PEOPLE FROM HOME HERE? OF COURSE NOT. SO, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING CARS, SERVICING

THE CARS, BUILDING HOUSES, FIXING HOUSES, MAKING THE FOOD,

MAKING ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CONSUME, IT'S MESSED UP TO ASSUME THAT THEY HAVE TO GO

TO WORK BUT YOU DON'T. HOW IS THAT -- IT'S NOT JUST A PRIDE THING.

I THINK IT IS MORALLY WRONG. >> ALTHOUGH, PRODUCTIVITY IS DEFINITELY AN IMPACT FACTOR.

>> YES. >> AND ON AND ON. BUT LISTEN -- >> LOOK, PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH

ME ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, -- >> WANTED TO WORK AT TESLA OR

SPACEX? WANT TO WORK AT TWITTER? GOT TO COME INTO THE OFFICE.

>> YES. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING, I'M SAYING, LOOK, PUT 40 HOURS IN.

YOU KNOW? FRANKIE DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WORK MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND I'M ALSO NOT SAYING NO ONE SHOULD TAKE -- I THINK PEOPLE

SHOULD TAKE VACATIONS. I WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING OTHERS DO

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