In this little bottle of Dr. Pepper, there are 15 teaspoons of sugar. There's no warning label here telling you this is really something that kids should not be drinking, or that it has a whole lot of calories. This is 240 calories right in this one bottle. So the industry

has done a very good job in selling us products that are cheap to produce and make us unhealthy. That's something uh, Congress has got to deal with. Bernie Sanders is one of the loudest voices in the room when it comes to ultra-processed food, and now he's pushing for warning

labels on ultra-processed products. He's here with me today to talk about his plans. I'm M. DeGraff, Health editor at Business Insider. The first thing that I want to talk about has to do with transparency. I think it's a bit of a black box that, for your average citizen,

it's hard to understand what stronghold industry lobbyists have over our politics and our food system. Major industries in this country, whether it's Financial Services or in healthcare or in food, spend huge amounts of money on campaign contributions. So they give you a lot of

money when you run for Congress, and that gives them access to you in a way that ordinary citizens do not have. So they can come in and say, 'Look, these are my problems; this is what I need.' And you know what? I did put $50,000 through our

Super PAC into your campaign. Furthermore, they have lobbyists running all over Washington, D.C., and often these lobbyists are very well-paid; they're very smart; in some cases, former leaders of the Democratic or Republican party. So they have clout. Oh, you know, I was in Congress

I know what you're going through, and here's what you need to be doing. When it comes to other countries and their nutrition policies, are there any you're envious of?

Sure. I mean, there are many countries way ahead of where we are. Let me give you one example: This is a bottle of Coca-Cola in the United States—no nutritional information, no warning label. This is one in Mexico. Mexico is doing more than other countries.  It says 'excess sugars,' 'excess calories,' 'caffeine warning,' 'not recommended for children.' And there are other countries that I've seen...

So, what we need to do is ensure that when a parent goes shopping, they know which products aren't healthy for their kids. In the United States, we haven't reached that stage. Other countries are doing much better. What do you say to...

concerns that front-of-package labels will be a distraction, delaying further action? I think it's something you've got to do. It's important for parents to know the health impact of the products they're buying for...

their kids. I mean, that's common sense. I think if most parents knew that there were, again, 15 teaspoons of sugar in this drink, I suspect many would say, 'Sorry, Joe, you can't have that,' and would...

put pressure on the industry to start producing healthier products. Speaking of industry reform, I have to ask you about RFK Jr., who's been nominated for HHS Secretary. He says he's going to overhaul our food system and specifically remove processed foods from...

School meals: Do you think that's doable? Where do you agree and disagree? Well, I think a lot of what RFK is saying is kind of crazy and driven by conspiracy theories. Some of what he's saying is not crazy. Uh, I think the fact that in

America now, we have an obesity epidemic. 40% of adults are obese, uh, 20% of kids are obese, and that is directly related to the uh epidemic we have in diabetes. So you've got millions, billions of people struggling with diabetes; many of them are

overweight, uh, and uh it is costing us an estimated $400 billion a year to deal with diabetes—a huge amount of money. So it goes without saying that anybody with a brain in his or her head wants to deal with issues, get to the

cause of the problem. And I think access to food and the kind of sugar and salt that we have in products that our kids and adults are ingesting, uh, is an important part of addressing that crisis. Could you explain what the stakes are and why Americans should care about this matter?

When Kennedy talks about an unhealthy society, he's right. The amount of chronic illness that we have is just extraordinary. The obesity rates have risen for kids three times since the 1970s, so we're getting more and more obese, which leads to all kinds of other

health-related problems. We have a problem right now actually recruiting young people into the military because of health-related issues. Our kids are not healthy enough. So, in the long run, you want a healthy society as an end in itself; we want our people to have long

Lives productive lives, happy lives; that's what we want. And if the industry is giving our kids food that is making them overweight, leading to diabetes and other illnesses, clearly that's an issue that we've got to deal with.

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