Uh, if we uh, look at the Book of Genesis in the Bible, which is um, I think mistranslated by the Christians as the creation of a physical universe by a supernatural being, doesn't make a lot of sense because uh, the story is much older

than the invention of physics by Aristotle. Uh, back then people lived in the dream world. They knew that the world that you experience is a dream that uh, is somehow immersive in it and it's intersubjective, but it's a representation that can change when your

beliefs change and the way in which your perception works change. And so the objects of that dream are being created and they're not created by some kind of supernatural being, but they are created by your consciousness. And this story is is um, probably more than 3,000 years old.

It has at some point been introduced in the uh, religious scriptures of uh, the Hebrews and and uh, then being translated into some kind of... So you get the six-day structure and so on, but I think it might easily be a stage theory of how

mental organization works in the mind of an infant. So it starts out with um, the notion that consciousness is the proactive that it forms for anything else in the mind before the structure of the world model is created. And then it creates dimensions of difference and

then it separates the world model into a mental stage because the 3D world is the plane of best around and populates solid and liquid volumes, creates objects and categories and uh, makes it in against changes and lighting and temporal development. It models agency and creates a personal self. And so if you look at

These individual states basically start out with this creative Spirit Consciousness hovering over the substrate and the this Resort form and void, and then it creates a boundary between the world B and the sphere of ideas, that in this are called Heaven and Earth, or heaven and world. And this

sphere of ideas is what Jard calls the noosphere, this space in which thoughts and uh emotions and so on happen, and the other one is the stuff in space. Rest extender, that's our world model, it's the game and attracts reality.

And this boundary is quite fundamental in our own mind. And it's interesting that unlike Western philosophy, he now recognizes that this dualism is not a dualism in the physical Universe, in the substrate reality, but it's a dualism inside of our own mind. Right, we have

these two types of representation: the stuff and space representation in which we have a world model that we can touch, integrates over our perception, and the space of ideas that is asynchronous to it, capable to thought for as long as you want and imagine something independently

of what's currently being perceived. The next thing it does, it is able to create contrast, and we now know it's probably some kind of new velociator. The intensity of this contrast is associated with brightness, with the color of the day, and the

flatness of the contrast with dark, with the absence of light or uh data. And now we have a continuous dimension. Using dimensions, you can create arbitrary objects in Euclidean space, and the first object that are created is space. So the first space that builds is by combining

In two dimensions, you get the plane. The plane gets associated with the ground. Um, infants start thinking in 2D. Most observe this, then you see and during development that infants typically have difficulty building towers, and not because they can't physically, because they cannot really reason in 3D yet. So

initially, they really like to arrange stuff on the ground, and then at some point they can conceptualize 3D and the way in which objects are represented in 3D. And at this point, this is sufficient to deal with the entire phonic space in

the GE interac. And then we create liquids and solids, and from them we um build objects, and we learn how light changes over time and objects are invariant against it. We cover the reach of light sources, and then we create all the plants and all

the animals and give them all their names, and it's all this population of the game. And it's not the creation of a physical universe; just these are not physical entities, these are categories that we form by interacting with the world. And then uh we also realized that

the whole purpose of the exercise is to build a control model for the interaction between an organism and its environment. So, we create a model of that organism and its environment, and put it into the simulated world. And we find that for the first uh two to three years

uh, infants typically refer to themselves in the third person. And I suspect it's not because "I" is such a complicated word, or because they never hear anybody using it, but it's because they don't perceive themselves in the first person. They perceive this person as something that

is inside of them, it's being, it's a model of that person that's being generated in their mind, and we notice that there's a dramatic change in personality once at a certain age we drop into being mostly in the third person, that we no longer realize that we

are creating reality and dreaming it, but we uh basically experience ourselves as inhabitants of this reality, and uh we had this Fe childhood in n and I suspect might be related to the fact that once we conceptualize ourselves in the first person, we reindex our memories and when

you have children you will notice this, saying that have perfectly fine memories during their first year of life and second year of life, and they can remember in the second year of Life what they did in their first year of life, but somehow after their third year of Life

they forgot everything that was before it, it's pretty weird and it's interesting in variance in was children, and I think that's EAS we associate our personal self, this conscious first person perspective, and once I stumbled on reading Genesis in this SP made total sense and I could not

unsee it anymore because this original interpretation that uh after God uh creates the world, creates humans in God's Own image, it really look like anything that hovers over the face of the waters and makes light and darkness right and it creates it as man and woman

and when I think what happens is that this outer mind creates another Spirit, another Consciousness that is uh another model of being that is put inside of this God and thinks of itself as man and woman, that thinks of itself as a human being, that experience itself as a person

that is, I think, expressed in here and I think it makes total sense to put this text first to explain our own nature to us and our own way of experiencing reality relating to it

The oldest theory about the creation of the mental universe by consciousness?

Joscha Bach Bits

Genesis is mistranslated; it's not about physical creation but a much older concept.

Ancient people understood the world as a dream-like, subjective experience.

Objects in this dream are created by consciousness, not a supernatural being.

The six-day creation might represent a stage theory of mental organization in infants.

Consciousness forms before the world model; it creates dimensions and separates the world model into mental stages.

The 3D world is populated with solid and liquid volumes, objects, and categories.

A boundary is created between the 'world' and the 'sphere of ideas' (noosphere).

This dualism is within the mind, not the physical universe.

Two types of representation: the world model and the space of ideas.

Contrast creation is associated with brightness and darkness.

Dimensions are used to create objects; the first is space (2D plane, then 3D).

Infants initially think in 2D, later developing 3D reasoning.

3D understanding allows for navigating the physical space.

Liquids, solids, objects, light changes, and categorization are developed.

The goal is to build a control model for interaction with the environment.

Infants use third-person references initially, likely due to a lack of first-person perception.

A shift to first-person perspective occurs, changing the experience of reality.

Memory reindexing might be related to this shift in perspective.

The speaker's reinterpretation of Genesis aligns with this developmental model.

God creating humans in God's image mirrors the creation of a self-model within the mind.

The created 'man and woman' represent the inner self-model.

Genesis explains our nature and experience of reality.

The oldest theory about the creation of the mental universe by consciousness?

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