Historical Reliability of Moon Splitting Claims in Islam

The oldest claims of the moon splitting date back nearly 200 years after Muhammad's death, raising doubts about their reliability.

### The Historical Debate on the Moon Splitting and Islamic Texts
* 🌙 The earliest written reference to the moon splitting during Muhammad's time comes from a source dated around **750 AD**, nearly **200 years after his death**.
* 📜 This source, attributed to Nowak, relies on later Muslim writings that were **compiled long after the events they describe**, raising questions about their **reliability**.
* 🕰 In the 9th century, around 830 AD, Ibn Hasham edited these accounts, **removing content he deemed unfavorable or weak**, further complicating the historical narrative.
* ❓ Critics argue that there is a **lack of contemporaneous written evidence** from the time Muhammad claimed prophethood in 610 AD, which raises **doubts about the authenticity** of the moon-splitting event.
* 📖 Hadith literature, which recounts Muhammad's miracles, including the **moon splitting**, is also questioned for its **historical accuracy** and potential **fabrication to align with Quranic verses**.
* 🔍 The absence of widespread historical documentation of the moon splitting at the time, coupled with explanations that **people were asleep**, adds to the **skepticism surrounding the event**.
* 🗣 The discussion also touches on theological points, questioning the **nature of Allah's attributes** and the implications of **self-praise within Islamic texts**, leading to further debate on the **coherence of these beliefs**.
* ✝ Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes a belief in **Jesus as a source of truth and salvation**, contrasting it with the perceived **inconsistencies found in Islamic doctrine**.

what's the oldest source you have telling you the moon split? The written source? I don't know. I just saw some. I will tell you where you get it from. The first person that we have whose writing survives, if there were others, we don't have their writings, would mention the moon split. But there's a problem. The of we don't have any copies of it. What we have is Nowak wrote around 750 AD. If that dating is right. See, this is all assuming the later Muslim sources, your sources, that were written 200 years after when Muhammad supposedly died, they're accurate. So let's assume they're accurate. Supposedly wrote his biography of Muhammad around 750 AD. But then in the 9th century, around 830 AD, notice this is supposedly 200 years after your Prophet died. IB hasham took and he edited it. He removed stuff he didn't like. He removed stuff that made Muhammad look bad. And he removed what he thought was weak stuff. So the oldest source we have is nearly 200.

years after your Prophet died that the moon was split during the time of your prophet in Mecca. So now what source do you have because supposedly Muhammad claimed to be a prophet around the year 610 AD and he remained in Mecca for 13 years. So we go 610 623. What written source do you have from around that time okay that says the moon was split. There was one Muslim Muslims would I and showing it left right and center. Yeah you got it. So you're basing your entire life your life and afterlife on sources that are so unreliable full of contradictions and written hundreds of years after your Prophet supposedly live and you're willing to gamble your life if you die today my friend right now you die today. You're basing your the afterlife on these sources that are so embarrassing. You're embarrassed you even said you read stuff you wish it wasn't there and you don't know you may die today. I may die today. It's not a joke then uh uh how

do Muslims explain the moon verse? What moon verse? That moon verse is a sign. What sign is it? The sign of what Muhammad did or a sign of the end? Finish the entire chapter, man. Oh, so it's a sign of the end. That's what many Muslim scholars say. I don't believe anything in the Quran, so it doesn't matter to me. But how do you know chapter 541 is talking about the splitting of the moon? How do you know that? Some Muslim saw that ayah and created a miracle to go with that ayah. Yeah, because there are Hadith. That's why people... I know the Hadith were written when? In the time of Muhammad. So let me ask you the question again. The Hadith that says that he split the moon with his finger like a sword. He did his finger, man. That's one powerful finger. Same finger where water came out of from his fingers. Okay, let's go that Hadith. How do you know those Hadith that were written to say Muhammad split the moon were not made up to

explain chapter 54:1 in other words. They saw in 54:1 it says the moon was split, so they made up a story to make it like Muhammad split it. How do you know what proof do you have that's not a made-up story? Yeah, if I had any historical proof, then it would have been much stronger. That's what I'm trying to say. How come the world at that time, we don't have any catalog of the Moon splitting at that time? Well, according to Farah, because a lot of people were sleeping, that's what he said. Yeah, in one of the video responses to apost Prophet, when apost Prophet was making fun of the moonlit, his response is, Well, come on, at that time was night. How many people you think would still be awake? Why? Why? Like, did you try to with him to talk? He won't debate. He says he doesn't debate us, just like IB slab won't debate online. But forget him now. Can you stop with the prophecies? They prove nothing but that your Prophet is a

false prophet because even Allah said I am you know okay what does w mean what is w he's one what one means everything one that's it so you mean he only has one attribute he doesn't have multiple attributes no not about attributes you just said one means everything's one so what does one mean you just contradict yourself if everything's one that means he only has one name one attribute he is one in essence and he's one in person show me where it says one in person where does thean says one in person when he speaks he does not have like different different person person you sure he speaks he speaks of them in the third person we and then he speaks of himself as I then he speaks of himself and he in the same verse he goes from one pronoun to another he's confused here can I show you sometimes he wants to be Majestic okay so you're saying that being plural is more Majestic than being singular good job like we we you know okay but notice what

you said he speaks in the plural because he wants to be Majestic, so you just admit plural is more Majestic and greater than singular. Okay, now let's go back with this chapter 17 verse one. Here's where I want confus because Allah is all over the place. It says glory be to him, glorified be he, who took his servant By Night from M the inviable MOs to M the the farthest MOS, whose precincts we bless, so we might show him some of our signs. So, who's speaking and saying glory be to him, glorified be he, Allah. Allah speaking about himself. So, Allah is saying to himself glory be to him who me who took his servant who's my servant. So, that we might show him some of our signs. So, Allah's praising himself. Yeah, and he's worshiping himself. He's praising himself. Yeah, and that's worship. When I say Subhan Allah, that's worship, right? I, right? Yes. So, Allah just did. Allah just did. I, he worshiped himself.

because he said to himself, Glory be to him. That's worship. So, Allah's worshiping himself. Is that what you just told us? Look, I am not as intelligent as you. You're going to get me stuck. No, I'm not getting you stuck. Allah's getting you stuck. Muhammad's getting you stuck because you won't leave this false religion. Jesus will never get you stuck. Jesus will save you from being stuck 'cause he loves you.

Muslim Learns Muhammad Did NOT Split The Moon [Debate] | Sam Shamoun

TheArchive

The oldest written source mentioning the moon split is from Nowak, who wrote around 750 AD, 200 years after Muhammad's death.

IB Hasham edited Nowak's work in the 9th century, removing content he disliked.

There are no reliable written sources from Muhammad's time (610-623 AD) that mention the moon split, raising questions about the credibility of the later sources.

The moon verse, often associated with chapter 54:1 of the Quran, is interpreted by many Muslim scholars as a sign of the end times.

The Hadith, written during Muhammad's time, claims he split the moon with his finger, leading to questions about their authenticity and potential to explain the Quranic verse.

The lack of historical evidence for the moon splitting and the argument that many people were asleep at the time are points of contention in the debate.

The speaker questions the idea of Allah's oneness, arguing that if Allah is one, he should have only one attribute and name.

The speaker points out the contradiction in Allah using different pronouns and speaking in the plural, suggesting that this implies a greater majesty.

The speaker interprets a verse from chapter 17 as Allah praising and worshiping himself, raising questions about the nature of his oneness.

The speaker questions the concept of Allah worshiping himself, suggesting it creates confusion.

They argue that Muhammad is also responsible for this confusion and criticize the listener for not leaving the religion.

In contrast, the speaker claims that Jesus offers salvation and love, providing a way out of the confusion.