and if you want to be a leader, what kind of leader do you want to be? A high-integrity leader or a low-integrity leader? Consider how they crash and burn, the low-integrity ones, and then being a high-integrity leader. That's one of the most difficult things you can undertake in your life because that means you really got to walk your talk, and you can really only lead people up to the level of where you are at developmentally and consciously. So, any bottlenecks within your own consciousness and ego development are going to... that's going to be as high as your leaders can... I mean, as your followers can follow you. You can't really lead them beyond that. And so, then it becomes a matter of what do I got to change about myself to make myself more integrated, integris, so that I can lead people to higher levels of integrity. And the higher levels of integrity you want to lead people to, the more challenging it's going to be, and the more burden and responsibility will be placed upon you to be impeccable with your own integrity.

but then again, that's what mankind needs the most. What we need the most right now to lead us out of all of our problems, including the climate change problem, the pollution problem, the economic problems we have, and many, many others, is we need high-integrity leaders. And look how rare those are. And even, of course, when they do come, think of one. Think of one right now. Think of a modern, not someone who died years ago, but something of a modern high-integrity leader that you've seen or heard. Chances are they're not the most popular person because, of course, as your integrity gets really, really high and you're leading people towards such a high ideal, it becomes harder and harder for people to follow because they would have to completely change their own psychological makeup in order to follow you there. And integrity is an honest signal. You can't really fake integrity. You can try to erect a facade of integrity, but it's going to break down, and you yourself are going to know it's fake deep down, if not consciously, then at

least subconsciously, the ego is going to know it's going to be playing these games, and so it's going to come through pretty clearly. People with high integrity clearly see people with low integrity, but people with low integrity have a difficult time seeing people with high integrity and/or low integrity and making that distinction. You see, this is one of the core things of the sort of Trump phenomenon that happened, is that to anyone with any moderate degree of integrity or high integrity, it's just utterly obvious that Trump is a con artist and has no integrity whatsoever. He's like the least integral human that I've seen in a long time publicly, right? But a lot of his followers, the MAGA people, can't see this because, surprise, surprise, birds of a feather flock together. They also don't have high integrity. They don't know what integrity is. They've never contemplated it. They've never developed it. They've never faced the real challenges that come with developing it. And a lot of the people who follow them

are just stage spiral dynamic stage blue religious dogmatic people, and for them, they might think they have integrity, but they don't really have integrity. We'll cover this a little bit later in the episode. They don't have true integrity. What they have is they have an aping of integrity, which is that they have the moral facade that they've erected through religion, but that does not mean one actually has integrity. In fact, oftentimes, it means the opposite of that. Yeah, so um, so it's easy for a con man to fool other people with low integrity. See, our con man can't fool someone with high integrity because the high integrity person just—you can smell it. If you have high integrity, you can just look at Trump for 30 seconds giving a speech or talking about something, answering a question, and you can just smell the coming out of his pores. You can just see the ego pouring out, and you would never follow that person. But more naive people who are at lower levels of spiral and

ego development and moral development, spiritual development. Who haven't done a lot of, you know, self-actualization work or spiritual work, they can't see it. And in fact, they admire what they see because it reflects themselves back to who they just see themselves in it. And then, of course, the ego just assumes that, Hey, I'm great, so anything that's like me is also great. But it's a very dangerous assumption. The assumption there is that I'm great. Well, maybe you're not so great. So, anyways, my question for you is, how grounded is your life in integrity? How about the projects that you work on? Whatever project you're working on right now, is it grounded in integrity? How much? Rate it on a scale of one to ten. Or are you just being opportunistic? And are you just doing whatever works? And you're just following the path of least resistance with your project, whatever that is. Your project could be your marriage. Your project could be raising your children. Your project could be teaching children in school. Maybe you're a

teacher educator, something like that. Your project could be doing science or medicine or healing people or art music, whatever kind of media you're working in. See, people with low integrity are very predictable. You can predict and you can bank on the fact that they will lie, cheat, steal, deceive, and exploit at any chance they get. It's like a law of physics; that's how predictable it is, right? It's completely predictable that the Trump administration would be filled with people who are very much like Trump, and that's exactly what we saw over the four years of the Trump administration. It's not that Trump himself had no integrity, and that's it, and then he hired other, you know, people who are good and so forth. No, because the only people who would want to follow Trump are other low integrity people, which is why we saw in the Trump administration so many scandals with all of his administration members. And we saw sex scandals and racism and wife abuse and alcoholism and this and that, like, because these are the kinds of people

who would follow Trump, and of course, most of them were grifters. They were doing it for the publicity, for the book that they were going to write, for the Fox News gig that they were going to get, for the lobbying donations or jobs or opportunities that they would get after the fact. And then they were all backstabbing each other too in the administration. They couldn't even trust each other. Of course, that's the whole problem when you're dealing with low-integrity people, is that it comes back to bite you in the ass. And it came back to bite Trump in the ass many times. If you follow the news cycles, you know a lot of people were leaking on him back, some of his own people, like his own closest aides, would leak, would backstab each other, would, you know, gossip about him. And yeah, that's what you get when you have a community of low integrity, and you have that kind of culture. Integrity is not just something we have individually, but then also institutions have it collectively or don't have it.

it's a culture thing, and so all this was very predictable to you. Now people blame me for saying, Oh Leo, why are you so biased against Trump? Why do you keep making everything so political? It's not about the politics. I don't care about the politics of it. I'm just bringing up these examples because they're so poignant and they're so illustrative. And in this way, like I use Trump, Trump has been a gift to me because over the last four years, in the sense that like for me as a self-actualization teacher, as someone who tries to teach people how to become more conscious and more spiritual and more loving, all I got to say is do everything the opposite of what Trump does, and then you got the gist of what I'm trying to teach you. So in that sense, it's not political. It's just there's deeper dynamics here than politics. It's not partisan. It's not about Democrats or Republicans. It's really about what the psyche is, to how the psyche behaves.

Mankind Badly Needs Leaders With Integrity - High vs Low Integrity Leadership

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