OpenAI has got the wind at its back. The OpenAI in talks now for a new funding round. Perhaps the biggest AI player out there. But the next act for the ChatGPT creator will be its toughest. Every organization. If they want to go public, they're going to have to reorganize and restructure the company before any of these investors can see some kind of massive return off of that. A high-profile partnership with Apple. iPhone 16 raises the bar for what an iPhone can do. The next breakthrough and GPT-5 on the line, all led by a CEO who, depending on who you ask, is a visionary or a snake oil salesman. What do you think of OpenAI? Do you trust Sam Altman? Not a bit. I'm Deirdre Bosa, and this is pardon the disruption. Here's why this is OpenAI's moment of truth. The higher the climb, the harder the fall, and OpenAI

has climbed the tech ranks very quickly. Google ahead of Microsoft and ahead of Apple. Next month, those three giants have had to reorient their entire businesses around artificial intelligence because of what this one startup has done. And now the stage is set for one of its biggest tests yet, a partnership with Apple. We're integrating them right into your experiences, and we're starting out with the best of these; the pioneer and market leader ChatGPT from OpenAI. A $100 billion valuation, one of the few unicorns in history to even reach that level. It also signals this all-out arms race we're seeing in the valley for these AI companies to get more cash. OpenAI with ChatGPT has been considered the leader. And now its founder is once again in the spotlight, bringing his particular brand of bold execution to one of the largest platforms in the world. You bring Sam Altman not because you're doing the partnership, but because he's the one that got everybody on board with ChatGPT in the first place.

and he's going to signal to everybody watching this event that Apple is not going to be the one that's going to wait and watch, that this is the moment. ChatGPT is coming to the iPhone, supercharging its reach, putting the chatbot in front of millions of users who may never have interacted with generative AI before. I'm also excited about a new generation of iPhone built from the ground up to deliver Apple intelligence and its breakthrough capabilities. It's high stakes, high pressure, there is little room for error. A tall ask for a company and a founder that has had a bumpy ride to the top. Major breaking news related to OpenAI. Steve Kovach joins us now. This is a stunner in some respects, Steve. Yeah, Sam Altman is out as CEO of OpenAI. We just got this announcement, Scott. I'll read you directly from the release. The board saying, quote, Mr. Altman's departure follows a deliberative review

process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board. Altman ultimately survived that coup, returning in less than a week, but he has since lost some of the key people that helped build OpenAI in the first place. And OpenAI co-founder John Schulman is leaving the maker of ChatGPT to join Anthropic, an AI rival backed by Amazon. We learned about that major leadership exodus over at OpenAI as top talent, including two co-founders, announced their departures in just the past few days. Co-founder Ilya Sutskever, who took part in ousting Altman before reversing course and pushing for his return, will exit the board. At issue for many of them, Altman running OpenAI as a for-profit company, one that no longer reflected the nonprofit structure it was founded on, and his vast investment empire, including his own venture capital firm and a slew of side projects raising questions.

about conflicts of interest. OpenAI says that Altman maintains transparency with the board about his occasional investments and adheres to a process for managing potential conflicts of interest. Altman started OpenAI in 2015 as a nonprofit with the mission of advancing AI that would benefit humanity as a whole and, quote, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return. But building AI, it's expensive. It requires data servers, engineers, energy. The AI chips themselves run up into the hundreds of millions of dollars. OpenAI. It needed investors and investors will they want returns? So in 2019, it updated its structure. The current structure is unique, which might be an understatement. Equity is actually issued by OpenAI's for-profit subsidiary, which is governed by the Nonprofit board. A very complex hybrid between a nonprofit entity and a for-profit arm. And so I think that kind of structure is ultimately untenable. You can't be both. He's also been criticized by former colleagues for

running OpenAI as a for-profit company, no longer reflecting the nonprofit structure it was founded on. Its original focus on safe and responsible development that's made way for a very lucrative business model subscriptions licensing, a growing enterprise product, leading one of its co-founders, who left in 2018 to coin it, closed AI. This seemed weird that something can be, um, a nonprofit, uh, open source and somehow transform itself into a for-profit closed source. I mean, this would be like like, let's say you funded an organization to save the Amazon rainforest, and instead, they became a lumber company and chopped down the forest and sold it for money. And you'd be therefore like, well, wait a second. That's the exact opposite of what I gave the money for. Yeah. Is that legal? That doesn't seem legal. The test. Now, whether it can balance the tug of war between its nonprofit roots and a more realistic for-profit future.

Here's how Emil Michael, an early Uber executive who now invests in AI companies, would advise him. It's clear to the world now, but it certainly was getting clearer to the board of directors and the donors of which Elon Musk was a donor and a co-founder, that this was more going to be a for-profit entity. If I were advising him, which I'm not on this subject, I'd say just be who you are. This is a for-profit thing. Give the donations back to people who thought they were donating to, you know, a foundation. Sam Altman has been a long, recurring character in Silicon Valley tech circles with a work ethic to match. I've known him a little for a long time. He is responsive. You texting; can you talk? And before you can like hit send, he's calling you. Roots in entrepreneurship and venture capital, he is raising money at ever higher valuations and he's drawing interest from the biggest players in the tech.

world. Microsoft was first with an initial $1 billion investment in 2019 that quickly swelled to $13 billion, and now Apple and Nvidia may be poking around hoping to invest themselves and capitalize on OpenAI's winning streak. You might call it a party round. That's what they would call it in Silicon Valley. But you've got names like Microsoft, you've got Apple trying to back the hottest name in Silicon Valley. But some tech observers are throwing cold water, saying that OpenAI's sky-high valuation does not match the returns. He's able to raise money at these very, very high valuations without having to demonstrate the progress that he promised a year or two ago. And, you know, as long as those incentives are misaligned, you shouldn't trust him. And, you know, there's a lot of history here. And as an investor, I'm looking at this thing going, wow, it's interesting because the promises of two years ago and the promises of one year ago have not

come true. The only thing that's come true is that he's raised more money at higher valuations. Michael, though, says that big tech interest is more strategic. Apple, Nvidia, and Microsoft are strategic investors, meaning they weren't just looking for financial return. They did it because they want to have some alignment with the technology that this company is building. Microsoft, we know, uses it in their office products. Nvidia, we know, makes a lot of money indirectly from OpenAI because OpenAI runs on a lot of their hardware. So, they have a strategic interest in doing that. Generative AI has now become synonymous with OpenAI. After ChatGPT's launch in 2022, it went viral and changed the entire conversation around what AI can do. He's at a really the most important company, and he's raising a lot of money, and people are scared about what AI could do and really excited about what AI could do. So, it's a focal point for the whole world right

now. Since then, no one has been able to replicate that moment, not Microsoft, with reports of its flagship product, Copilot disappointing customers, not Apple, which is staggering, and pushing back the launch of some AI capabilities on the iPhone. Not even Google with its decade-long lead in AI. It turns out it wasn't any of those well-capitalized, giant tech companies with the mainstream generative AI moment. It was Altman that got it done. People think of him as a technologist. He's actually a technologist and a great businessman, too. If anything, he was somewhat naive about this board coup. Maybe that's the one thing that he's got to make sure that he's being more paranoid, as I was, or Travis was at Uber about what could happen. And how do you insulate yourself against other people's interests kind of getting misaligned with yours. Now, a new race is on. Big Tech and OpenAI, they're developing the next, more

advanced phase of AI, getting closer to artificial general intelligence, where machines could perform tasks with human-like intelligence. OpenAI will be under intense scrutiny to ensure that GPT-5 is safe, transparent, and reliable, and it wants to get there first. Another GPT moment in the AI arms race. Jensen Huang, the AI Kingmaker himself. He says that the glory and the leadership go to the person or company with the breakthrough, not the incremental advance. The first person to the next plateau gets to introduce a revolutionary level of AI. The second person who gets there is incrementally, you know, better or about the same. So the ability to systematically and consistently race to the next plateau and be the first one there is how you establish leadership. That leadership is now OpenAI's to lose.

Why ChatGPT Creator OpenAI Is Having A Make Or Break Moment

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