this is a show about our future. The ability to work well with AI and take advantage of it is now, you know, more important than understanding Excel or the internet. Crafted text to my son using jenz slang, y famam, what's good, how you vibing? The conversation that a generation from now, we're not going to have to work as much. It's great that that's been started because that's not, you know, for technologists to understand better than anyone else, you know, that really gets to the heart of, you know, religious values, philosophical values, and it's kind of a Nirvana, but are we going to manage it well, uh, and how quickly does it come? At a certain point, AI will be good enough to build a better AI, so AI builds a better AI, which builds a better, build better, build better. This episode talks both about the huge benefits that for the next 10-20 years will be the dominant theme, but then also about how we have to rethink, you know, how time should be used when work isn't in such

short supply that discussion about if we can have enough teachers and doctors where you know we have incredible shortages even in rich countries. Think of things like mental health. It's really an amazing thing that you deal with those shortages and you think, Okay, how do we treat old people better, and what should the class size be? Can we make it be, you know, 15 or 10? And, Okay, what things do we reserve for humans? You know, we don't want to watch robots play baseball. So, you know, what is that boundary where you say, Okay, whatever the machines can do is great, and these other things, you know, perhaps art, very social activities, innate things. Where do we keep those jobs? It's getting hard to write science fiction. There's always been conspiracy theories. We underestimate how creative Americans are. Bill Gates is part of a reptilian race that includes Tom Hanks and Lady Gaga. You know, I think every country is struggling to find that boundary. The US is a tough one because, you know, we have the notion of the First

Amendment and so what what are the exceptions you know like yelling fire in a theater you know uh and because you're anonymous online you know it it it can be worse. I do think over time you know with things like deep fakes most of the time you're online you're going to want to be in an environment where that people are truly identified that is they're connected to a real world identity that you trust instead of just people saying whatever they want. And so the idea of Providence who sent me this email was that really them you know we're going to have to have systems and behaviors that we more aware of okay who who says that who who created this. We have to give up hydrocarbons almost entirely. I have this group breakthrough energy that was very involved in the What's called the IRA bill in the United States that put in tax credits you know for existing and new technologies to accelerate their deployment and we're consulted as an expert on a okay what's the policy to get the grid advanced.

what's the policy to have permitting not slow these things down? You know, how does hydrogen come into this? And so, we're a resource, including having lots of philanthropic funds from me and other donors on the policies that drive this forward. We're not meeting the activists' high expectations, including staying below the 1.5°. We are making enough progress that people should not despair. That is, we need to keep working on this, and yes, we're going to have some ill effects that'll force us to do adaptation. I was able to tell the activists that things are a bit better than they expect, although their vehement definitely had an effect on me to push harder. It was eye-opening how hardcore they were, and of course, you know, they've kept the issue visible. You know, I wish it was a bipartisan issue in the US. Fortunately, in most countries, you know, the argument is what, how to solve the climate, not, you know, is it important at all. My hope to eradicate malaria in my lifetime. I want

to eradicate in my lifetime. It's a tougher constraint. I'll be disappointed if the global health issue doesn't get significant viewership because, you know, the of my time and resources, you know, right up there with climate. That's the thing I work on the most, like Malaria deaths, which is a big focus of that. The 500,000 kids a year who are dying of that, you know. I'm trying to be smarter about how we get, you know, everybody to care about that, you know, so that the rich country stays engaged in helping out.

Bill Gates on AI, Misinformation, Climate Change and the Global Health Crisis

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